This whole thing is too long winded to get keep pushing along....  I could clarify some of my points but instead I will simply say this; I will admit to being wrong if Assassins Creed Unity, Witcher 3 and Batman Arkham Knight all pass without the Xbox recieving a substantial hardware boost from them and baselining well above the Wii U.

Out of curiosity; How much do you see the Wii U and Xbox selling by the end of their Lifes, and what year do you think each will peak? 

The Wii U sold 1.2 million globally by the end of June according to VGC estimates. Assuming it's at 2 million by the end of September and its Q4 sales represent half of the year's sales, that puts it at 4 million for the year and 9.4 million lifetime (though is Smash is a big enough system seller it could end the year at over 10 million). Unless it gets a price cut that gives an unbelievably huge long-term boost to sales next year, I don't see it having YoY sales growth next year at all, much less the amount it would need to pass 15 million by the end of 2015. At best, it'll stay flat or have a modest decrease. I simply don't see any scenario where 2014 isn't the peak year, and 20 million lifetime is an absolute best-case scenario. I will probably pass 13 million next year and hit 15 million in 2016 and maybe 17-18 million by time it is discontinued (likely before the decade is out).

Well the Wii U is only outselling the Xbox One currently because of MK8, meanwhile the Xbox One hasn't had a major system seller released since mid March (and it wasn't even an exclusive).

This holiday season will give us a much better idea of what console will end up selling more, right now it's anyone's guess.

Loser has to put that they lost the bet into their sig for a year. Sound good?

Watch Dogs was a system seller.

Just perhaps not for Xbox One but it was for PS4.  Why one but not the other?  How does that bode for big 3rd party titles later this year?   Will they have little impact for Xbox One as well?  

Except many games are already exclusive to other platforms in regards to the Wii U yet it hasn't helped X1 at all, 360 had many HD exclusives and still coulnd't beat the Wii I just don't see it working how you're trying to put it because if that were the case the likes of DR3 and such should have already done what you're saying. The only games that are going to make people upgrade to an X1 are MS exclusives not next gen exclusives because everyone is opting for the PS4 and that's logic no one can deny and what contradicts what you're saying as X1 sales won't shoot up PS4 sales will, the being less then 10k in sales shows how the X1 has suffered as it was ahead by 20k months ago and has dropped behind for weeks now with the gap increasing each week and this was after a non-kinect model just released and did nothing.

The aren't many dedicated Xbox fans and that's the mistake MS and some people have made, the 360 just sold to a wider mass market who have now returned to the PS4 while the original Xbox did GC numbers, MS and some people here mistook the 360 numbers as actual new dedicated Xbox followers and hence why they had their moment of madness handling the X1. How it looks to me is the people buying the X1 have been the dedicated fans while everyone else opts for the PS4 while some migrate to PC, all of you expecting a big comeback will be disappointed as I'm expecting original Xbox level sales. Only a ridiculously significant price cut making it much cheaper when something like Halo arrives will turn things around.