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Look at XBox One, they have far less promise than Nintendo does.

1) People hate Microsoft for the DRM thing,

2) their console is almost a mirror image of the PS4,

3) they are expensive to develop for,

4) they have less marketshare than Nintendo right now,

5) Microsoft has lost almost all the steam in its sails already,

6) Microsoft has almost no first party game content,

7) Microsoft shot themselves in the foot again by bundling the kinect for 100 dollars.

8) Has to buy third party exclusives

9) Microsoft has no presence in Japan.  Its not even worth them trying to sell it there.  

That's the list of things Microsoft has to deal with that Nintendo doesn't. Here's Nintendo's list of reasons why they should recover:

1) Extremely unique console experience

2) Cheap

3) Huge first party development, enough to make it worth purchasing for that alone.

4) Family friendly

5) Cheap to develop for

6) Nintendo can bribe third parties with the 3DS which is doing really well.

7) Unique audience which isn't captured on the XBox One or the PS4

8) Third parties almost have to make all their games an exclusive on the Wii U without Nintendo doing anything.

9) Nintendo is winning Japan even more than Sony is right now.  

10) Nintendo sales are picking up

11) Nintendo has the second largest marketshare right now of the big 3.  



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Watch Dogs is gonna flop on Wii U and Just Dance is a declining franchise that will probably be irrelevant soon like Guitar Hero. I don't see this ending well.

Nintendo fanbase really doesn't allign with Ubi Soft's target demo for things like Watch Dogs and Assassins' Creed anyway, that audience is all owned by Sony and MS.

But when things like Rayman aren't selling that great either ... I dunno. Maybe the Wii U is just a Nintendo enthusiasts machine for Nintendo games and not a whole lot else. And even there, not all Nintendo games are selling great ... DKC isn't doing that well, Wonderful 101 flopped, Wii Fit U didn't light up the charts, etc.

I think Nintendo's kinda drawn the line in the sand though that they're not going to take huge losses on price cuts to try and kick start the Wii U. If it dies, it dies, but Nintendo isn't going to sacrifice a chunk of their cash warchest for the future trying to save the Wii U via price slashes. 



DarkD said:

Look at XBox One, they have far less promise than Nintendo does.

1) People hate Microsoft for the DRM thing,

2) their console is almost a mirror image of the PS4,

3) they are expensive to develop for,

4) they have less marketshare than Nintendo right now,

5) Microsoft has lost almost all the steam in its sails already,

6) Microsoft has almost no first party game content,

7) Microsoft shot themselves in the foot again by bundling the kinect for 100 dollars.

8) Has to buy third party exclusives

9) Microsoft has no presence in Japan.  Its not even worth them trying to sell it there.  

That's the list of things Microsoft has to deal with that Nintendo doesn't. Here's Nintendo's list of reasons why they should recover:

1) Extremely unique console experience

2) Cheap

3) Huge first party development, enough to make it worth purchasing for that alone.

4) Family friendly

5) Cheap to develop for

6) Nintendo can bribe third parties with the 3DS which is doing really well.

7) Unique audience which isn't captured on the XBox One or the PS4

8) Third parties almost have to make all their games an exclusive on the Wii U without Nintendo doing anything.

9) Nintendo is winning Japan even more than Sony is right now.  

10) Nintendo sales are picking up

11) Nintendo has the second largest marketshare right now of the big 3.  


far less promise? LMAO. is that why xone has done better than WIi U in the same time frame than Wii U despite being more expensive? is that why Ubisoft games do better on xone than Wii U?



toot1231 said:
Ubisoft does not understand that Nintendo fans for the most part do not like their generic bore fest of games.
Most Nintendo fans play games for gameplay and less of story. Thats something none of their games excell in they are all snorefests. I do not have the time to invest in a story i just wanna pop a game in and get rolling.


excellent! so we shouldnt see you on the forums complaining about support then?



Soundwave said:

Watch Dogs is gonna flop on Wii U and Just Dance is a declining franchise that will probably be irrelevant soon like Guitar Hero. I don't see this ending well.

Nintendo fanbase really doesn't allign with Ubi Soft's target demo for things like Watch Dogs and Assassins' Creed anyway, that audience is all owned by Sony and MS.

But when things like Rayman aren't selling that great either ... I dunno. Maybe the Wii U is just a Nintendo enthusiasts machine for Nintendo games and not a whole lot else. And even there, not all Nintendo games are selling great ... DKC isn't doing that well, Wonderful 101 flopped, Wii Fit U didn't light up the charts, etc.

I think Nintendo's kinda drawn the line in the sand though that they're not going to take huge losses on price cuts to try and kick start the Wii U. If it dies, it dies, but Nintendo isn't going to sacrifice a chunk of their cash warchest for the future trying to save the Wii U via price slashes. 

this i dont know why people cant accept this.



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BreedinBull said:
Nintendo gone learn this gen third parties run this sht.

Nintendo will learn hopefully to quit trying to pander to them and go their own way.



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oniyide said:

far less promise? LMAO. is that why xone has done better than WIi U in the same time frame than Wii U despite being more expensive? is that why Ubisoft games do better on xone than Wii U?

Its more XOne's sales style that they caught up so fast.  Microsoft's audience is the hardcore gamer who views sites like these.  Those people are always gonna get their console of choice right away.  They're the people who wait all night outside of stores to buy that console.  Microsoft has that kind of gamer backing them.  They buy up their consoles REALLY fast REALLY early.  

Nintendo has 3 audiences

1) Diehard Nintendo fans like myself, who like with other hardcore gamers, got the system as soon as they could.  

2) Second console gamers.  Nintendo is pretty much a given for anyone who is looking for a second console to get.  

3) Casuals who don't even know that the Wii U is a different console.  These people are unpredictable and hard to target, but Nintendo is trying.  

The fact that Microsoft is losing steam is a horrible sign for them.  Their long-term audience are people who want the console to prove itself and make more games before they buy it.  If Microsoft doesn't have a lot of games for it, there's not point then.  If Microsoft releases everything on the PC as well, there's no point there either.  

Long-term forecasts I would give it to Nintendo anyday.  They have way more going for them.  



DarkD said:

Here's Nintendo's list of reasons why they should recover:

1) Extremely unique console experience

2) Cheap

3) Huge first party development, enough to make it worth purchasing for that alone.

4) Family friendly

5) Cheap to develop for

6) Nintendo can bribe third parties with the 3DS which is doing really well.

7) Unique audience which isn't captured on the XBox One or the PS4

8) Third parties almost have to make all their games an exclusive on the Wii U without Nintendo doing anything.

9) Nintendo is winning Japan even more than Sony is right now.  

10) Nintendo sales are picking up

11) Nintendo has the second largest marketshare right now of the big 3.  

1) Which games besides Nintendo Land deliver "extremely unique experiences"? Even most first party WiiU games use the touchscreen only for a map, inventory or to display some stats... these are minor differences.

2) Not compared to PS3 & 360 with similar graphic quality and a much bigger game selection

3) correct

4) correct

5) no, even Nintendo has underestimated the extra effort (money and time) compared to Wii games

6) that worked really great so far

7) so, where is this unique audience? The Wii crowd? Either they already bought a Wii U, have already moved on to other systems (Kinect, smartphones, tablets), have found other hobbies than gaming or won't upgrade at all

8) please elaborate... where are all these third party exclusives?

9) we'll see

10) how many weeks?

11) before PS4 and XBO launched, Wii U had even the largest marketshare (100%) of the 8th generation. Already lost a place, will lose another



oniyide said:
toot1231 said:
Ubisoft does not understand that Nintendo fans for the most part do not like their generic bore fest of games.
Most Nintendo fans play games for gameplay and less of story. Thats something none of their games excell in they are all snorefests. I do not have the time to invest in a story i just wanna pop a game in and get rolling.


excellent! so we shouldnt see you on the forums complaining about support then?


im not saying they are not welcome. its just they do not fit in with nintendo.

and i dont complain anyway i hate most 3rd party games. they do not take the time and care like nintendo do.



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Gintoki said:
Their argument is flawed as fuck, are they giving up the Xbox One while it's currently in third place ? Nope. Of course they go on thinking they can sell better on One than on Wii U, but they're to blame on Wii U, they delay games, say craps, and then complaint. If they just released games same time and with a decent advertisement too it would sell better, but now it is too late, they somehow pissed most people on Wii U even if the Wii U performs well, Ubi's game aside from Just Dance have little chances to perform good.


Do you know why they haven't given up on the xbox one? Yes, it's in third place... right now. I'm guessing it's going to be in second by Q2 2015 at the latest though. What does that mean? More people buying games with a new system, and more overall sales. The company doesn't care how many console there are, they care how much the game will sell. Look at COD's numbers

Xbox one is at 1.79M and wiiU is at .16M.

Or how about any other third party that's on all three? Sure, the wiiU has about 50% more units out there, but people are buying more for their xbox one.