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(PS4 + PSV) < (WiiU + 3DS)?

Yes 82 47.95%
 
No 57 33.33%
 
God, no! 32 18.71%
 
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DarkRPGamer007 on 17 June 2014

Hard to say Wii U will beat Vita but PS4 will beat 3DS. Also remember the PS4 will be out until 2025 because Sony pushes their consoles for like 12 years



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EricFabian on 17 June 2014

I have a better prediction: PS4 >>>>>>>> Wii U + 3DS + Vita



Soundwave on 17 June 2014
EricFabian said:
I have a better prediction: PS4 >>>>>>>> Wii U + 3DS + Vita


Unlikely. 3DS will probably be 75-80 mill + 18-20 mill for the Wii U + 10-15 mill for the Vita ... PS4 I think will cap off around 90-100 mill. 



GProgrammer on 17 June 2014
Soundwave said:
EricFabian said:
I have a better prediction: PS4 >>>>>>>> Wii U + 3DS + Vita


Unlikely. 3DS will probably be 75-80 mill + 18-20 mill for the Wii U + 10-15 mill for the Vita ... PS4 I think will cap off around 90-100 mill. 


Far too high for the 3ds its just over 40 million now and its sales are decreasing rapidly, It will be lucky to see 60 million



novasonic on 17 June 2014
DarkRPGamer007 said:
Hard to say Wii U will beat Vita but PS4 will beat 3DS. Also remember the PS4 will be out until 2025 because Sony pushes their consoles for like 12 years

Traditionally, but I don't see it happening anymore. The market is too aggressive for Sony to be stretching their support over multiple generations like they used to.




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PS4: 60-65m
WiiU: 30-35m
X1: 30-35m
3DS: 80-85m
PSV: 15-20m

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kljesta64 on 17 June 2014

nintendo will stay hardware king this gen.



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cheshirescat on 17 June 2014

The ps4 could potentially sell more than the wii u and 3ds combined. Adding the vita to the tally basically makes whatever the wii u sells a wash and barring catastrophe the ps4 should easily outsell the 3ds.



Egann on 17 June 2014
DerNebel said:
Egann said:

The generation is young, so it's hard to tell, but I do think Nintendo will ship more hardware overall.

Thing is, Sony is in a bit of a catch-22 in this comparison. I'm guessing that if/ when the X1 overtakes the Wii U, Nintendo will pull the plug on it. They will no longer be able to compete in the console space. If the Wii U flops hard enough to do that and gets EOL'ed around, say, 2016, then the 3DS will get so much first party, third party, and indy support that the PS4 will have it's work cut out to overtake it. Conversely, if the Wii U holds on, you have two Nintendo consoles, the handheld market-leading 3DS and likely the middle of the console market Wii U. That's a better combination than first in market/ last in market.

When you look at Sony, though, there's no chance they will EOL the Vita, even if it stays forever a nobody. I could be terribly wrong, but I see the Vita factoring into this much less than the Wii U.

How would the Wii U ending its life in 2016 influence the 3DS's third party and indie support?


Because Nintendo will be focusing on it entirely and the 3DS will be a successful console without an "OMG DA GWAPHICS" reputation.

Case in point: Ghost Trick was basically an idealized SNES era throwback. It only sold as well as it did (and it sold kinda poorly) because the DS had a collossal install base and a reputation which collected gamers who could look past the graphics. Ghost Trick consistently made "best games on the DS" lists, and several reviews I found said things along the line of "a game like this is only possible on the DS."

As much as Sony has pushed indy games on the PS4, they are basically filler titles. They have no chance of competing with the blockbusters for critical acclaim, much less sales.



TheBlackNaruto on 17 June 2014
Egann said:
DerNebel said:
Egann said:

The generation is young, so it's hard to tell, but I do think Nintendo will ship more hardware overall.

Thing is, Sony is in a bit of a catch-22 in this comparison. I'm guessing that if/ when the X1 overtakes the Wii U, Nintendo will pull the plug on it. They will no longer be able to compete in the console space. If the Wii U flops hard enough to do that and gets EOL'ed around, say, 2016, then the 3DS will get so much first party, third party, and indy support that the PS4 will have it's work cut out to overtake it. Conversely, if the Wii U holds on, you have two Nintendo consoles, the handheld market-leading 3DS and likely the middle of the console market Wii U. That's a better combination than first in market/ last in market.

When you look at Sony, though, there's no chance they will EOL the Vita, even if it stays forever a nobody. I could be terribly wrong, but I see the Vita factoring into this much less than the Wii U.

How would the Wii U ending its life in 2016 influence the 3DS's third party and indie support?


Because Nintendo will be focusing on it entirely and the 3DS will be a successful console without an "OMG DA GWAPHICS" reputation.

Case in point: Ghost Trick was basically an idealized SNES era throwback. It only sold as well as it did (and it sold kinda poorly) because the DS had a collossal install base and a reputation which collected gamers who could look past the graphics. Ghost Trick consistently made "best games on the DS" lists, and several reviews I found said things along the line of "a game like this is only possible on the DS."

As much as Sony has pushed indy games on the PS4, they are basically filler titles. They have no chance of competing with the blockbusters for critical acclaim, much less sales.


But that still doesn't explain how the Wii U getting cut off would increase the 3DS indie/3rd party support. More first party without a doubt but the 3rd party would remain almost the same. Especially seeing as the Wii U has close to zero 3rd party support as it is.



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Egann on 17 June 2014
TheBlackNaruto said:
Egann said:
DerNebel said:
Egann said:

The generation is young, so it's hard to tell, but I do think Nintendo will ship more hardware overall.

Thing is, Sony is in a bit of a catch-22 in this comparison. I'm guessing that if/ when the X1 overtakes the Wii U, Nintendo will pull the plug on it. They will no longer be able to compete in the console space. If the Wii U flops hard enough to do that and gets EOL'ed around, say, 2016, then the 3DS will get so much first party, third party, and indy support that the PS4 will have it's work cut out to overtake it. Conversely, if the Wii U holds on, you have two Nintendo consoles, the handheld market-leading 3DS and likely the middle of the console market Wii U. That's a better combination than first in market/ last in market.

When you look at Sony, though, there's no chance they will EOL the Vita, even if it stays forever a nobody. I could be terribly wrong, but I see the Vita factoring into this much less than the Wii U.

How would the Wii U ending its life in 2016 influence the 3DS's third party and indie support?


Because Nintendo will be focusing on it entirely and the 3DS will be a successful console without an "OMG DA GWAPHICS" reputation.

Case in point: Ghost Trick was basically an idealized SNES era throwback. It only sold as well as it did (and it sold kinda poorly) because the DS had a collossal install base and a reputation which collected gamers who could look past the graphics. Ghost Trick consistently made "best games on the DS" lists, and several reviews I found said things along the line of "a game like this is only possible on the DS."

As much as Sony has pushed indy games on the PS4, they are basically filler titles. They have no chance of competing with the blockbusters for critical acclaim, much less sales.


But that still doesn't explain how the Wii U getting cut off would increase the 3DS indie/3rd party support. More first party without a doubt but the 3rd party would remain almost the same. Especially seeing as the Wii U has close to zero 3rd party support as it is.


No, more first party support means more sales, which means more third party developers will be attracted to the larger market. 

This is something which is relatively unique to Nintendo. Were we talking about Sony, yeah, first party support would have little effect on the consoles sales because the titles pushing hardware are already mostly third party. Nintendo, however, pushes hardware almost exclusively with first party titles. Less going on with the Wii U means more going on in the 3DS, which means more hardware sales.

True, those added sales would likely be cannabalized from what would have normally been the Wii U's market share, but in this scenario Microsoft and Sony would already be splitting the console space, and a sale is a sale.