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rockstarjerry981 on 28 February 2008

Sure, I'll take the bet and say it will be Wii exclusive



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kingofwale on 28 February 2008

@rockstarjerry981

gotta be more specific,

Do this

"I bet that KH3 will be a Wii exclusive or take 1 week vacation from the forum"

add that to your sig and i will add you to the list. Thanks



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
soccerdrew17 on 29 February 2008
ClaudeLv250 said:
soccerdrew17 said:
Soriku said:
soccerdrew17 said:
im not gona bet, but its still more likely that the kh team will still want to keep working on ps3. could change, but i think they will want to move up from ffvs13.

You do realize the KH team has little to no say where the game goes, right? It's all SE in general, and Disney (mostly Disney).


you do realize its directed by nomura, probably the most important person at se. if the team wants it on ps3, he will push for ps3, and se and disney will likely give it to him.

because se is the developer and have a decent record with the series so far (i hear it sells a few units), disney is likely to give the go ahead to anything se asks to develop in the ip. disney has no reason to push for any consoles, because that could cause a fallout.

You do realize that Disney has the ultimate say and that Nomura will have to go along with it whether he likes it or not or not be involved in the project at all, right? Disney will and has enacted their ability to make KH games without Nomura/SE's involvement. And Disney has every reason to push for a console, the entire purpose of KH is to bring Disney movies to Japan's mainstream. Not exactly going to happen on a console that's not really selling over there, is it?

I really don't understand that after SE got Crystal Tools/White Engine to work on Wii and even announced that the Wii was one of only three of their main platforms, people still seem to be tied to this notion that SE resents the console, that they have no intentions of putting any of their major franchises on it, and that their development teams would revolt if assigned to a Wii project even if it meant losing out on money nd even severing connections with the company that holds all the rights to Kingdom Hearts and its characters. It just doesn't make sense.

 


 yes, the game no one cared about and no one bought.  disney did a great job with that game.  if nomura doesnt like it then he will not work on kh and that will greatly affect the series at least its reception.

 i don't think the wii tools are 100% ready yet, but that doesn't really matter since kh3 at most is in very early production.  the use of the wiiusing the same engine is that the tools are the same, not that it can run the same things.  it makes it easier if devs have 1 set of tools to use for everything.  they will still put the same games on the same consoles (less ps3 exclusives though, because of 360 and pc).



my pillars of gaming: kh, naughty dog, insomniac, ssb, gow, ff

i officially boycott boycotts.  crap.

TheLivingShadow on 04 March 2008

I'll enter this bet. I know I'm not very known around here but that's just because I'm a lurker.

BUT WAIT just a second there. kingofwale is saying that Kingdom Hearts III will be MULTI platform. The others are saying it's gonna be Wii EXCLUSIVE. So let's say, by some near-impossible chance, KH3 is PS3/360 exclusive. Who wins?O_o

I think in that case nobody would win and nobody gets banned. Even though the chances of that happening are near impossible.

And I'm joining on Soriku's side. KH3 will be Wii exclusive. BELIEVE!



kingofwale on 04 March 2008
TheLivingShadow said:

I'll enter this bet. I know I'm not very known around here but that's just because I'm a lurker.

BUT WAIT just a second there. kingofwale is saying that Kingdom Hearts III will be MULTI platform. The others are saying it's gonna be Wii EXCLUSIVE. So let's say, by some near-impossible chance, KH3 is PS3/360 exclusive. Who wins?O_o

I think in that case nobody would win and nobody gets banned. Even though the chances of that happening are near impossible.

And I'm joining on Soriku's side. KH3 will be Wii exclusive. BELIEVE!


 well, this isn't a "black and white" bet, so it gives flexibility to everyone in this bet.

You can pick anything you want really, if you are wrong, you have to start a thread praising people who were right, and then take a 1 week ban.


But put your prediction on your sig = your official registration to the bet itself.



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
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windbane on 04 March 2008

I'm in. I've said plenty of times why it's unlikely for this game to be on the Wii, so I bet that it does not end up on Wii. I am curious: how many of you wanting this on Wii even played the PS2 games?



kingofwale on 04 March 2008
windbane said:
I'm in. I've said plenty of times why it's unlikely for this game to be on the Wii, so I bet that it does not end up on Wii. I am curious: how many of you wanting this on Wii even played the PS2 games?

 Well, just put your prediction on your sig and I will add your name to mine. :)



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
beastieboys25 on 17 March 2008
Soriku said:
soccerdrew17 said:
ClaudeLv250 said:
soccerdrew17 said:
Soriku said:
soccerdrew17 said:
im not gona bet, but its still more likely that the kh team will still want to keep working on ps3. could change, but i think they will want to move up from ffvs13.

You do realize the KH team has little to no say where the game goes, right? It's all SE in general, and Disney (mostly Disney).


you do realize its directed by nomura, probably the most important person at se. if the team wants it on ps3, he will push for ps3, and se and disney will likely give it to him.

because se is the developer and have a decent record with the series so far (i hear it sells a few units), disney is likely to give the go ahead to anything se asks to develop in the ip. disney has no reason to push for any consoles, because that could cause a fallout.

You do realize that Disney has the ultimate say and that Nomura will have to go along with it whether he likes it or not or not be involved in the project at all, right? Disney will and has enacted their ability to make KH games without Nomura/SE's involvement. And Disney has every reason to push for a console, the entire purpose of KH is to bring Disney movies to Japan's mainstream. Not exactly going to happen on a console that's not really selling over there, is it?

I really don't understand that after SE got Crystal Tools/White Engine to work on Wii and even announced that the Wii was one of only three of their main platforms, people still seem to be tied to this notion that SE resents the console, that they have no intentions of putting any of their major franchises on it, and that their development teams would revolt if assigned to a Wii project even if it meant losing out on money nd even severing connections with the company that holds all the rights to Kingdom Hearts and its characters. It just doesn't make sense.

 


yes, the game no one cared about and no one bought. disney did a great job with that game. if nomura doesnt like it then he will not work on kh and that will greatly affect the series at least its reception.

i don't think the wii tools are 100% ready yet, but that doesn't really matter since kh3 at most is in very early production. the use of the wiiusing the same engine is that the tools are the same, not that it can run the same things. it makes it easier if devs have 1 set of tools to use for everything. they will still put the same games on the same consoles (less ps3 exclusives though, because of 360 and pc).


Why wouldn't Nomura like it? Is he in some way Sony exclusive? THen why is KH on the DS and The World Ends With You on the DS also (which is actually made by the KH team, unlike the 3 new KHs)? And guess what? There isn't a SINGLE KH team game on the PSP. Nomura is onyl directing one game on the PSP - KH: BBS. Since the KH team makes the main series of KH (read: makes, doesn't actually "own" it, which would mean it's owned by SE which it is not) and Nomura is basically the "head" of the KH team there is no way he would drop out. Nomura never said he would stay "Sony exclusive" and he will never say it. End discussion. No more to discuss.

And as for KH3 being in production (even early production) that is a NO. NO, NO, NO. Unless you mean it's in the planning stages (deciding where the game goes, and the basic idea for the game and stuff) then that's fine because that is most likely happening. They're not gonna wait forever. But if you mean actual production, SE (well, Nomura to be exact) said KH3 won't start actual development until Versus XIII is finished. Disney have already said they want a KH3, but it seems SE is kinda busy at the moment so they're holding it off for a little bit. I bet Disney has alreayd proposed and planned KH3 to go to the Wii since the Wii is what they're targeting with games (read: TARGETING, not staying exclusive to like some of you seem to think).

Also, like Claude said, Disney wanted KH partly for Japan to buy Disney movies. Is the PS3 doing well in Japan? Not really. That's why games like Fatal Frame and Monster Hunter have moved to the Wii because the Wii is selling well in Japan. Plus don't say Japan matters even though KH sells best in the West (which is not surprising because it has Disney which is popular in the West) because it sells well in Japan too. It sold 700k the first week in Japan on the PS2 and the Final Mix version of the KHs are...guess what...yep, Japan only, so Japan DOES matter, and like I said before, the Wii is doing well in Japan while the PS3 isn't.

Plus KH is targeted at kids and teens, which are foudn mostly on the Wii rather than the PS3, so the Wii fits the KH demographic. Why would they make KH3 on a console which is sellign worse than the Wii and is more expensive to make and doesn't fit the demographic when the Wii is holding up in ALL those areas?

That is all. And Nomura doesn't do a lot and definitely doesn't have that much power as a lot seem to think, sorry.

fanboyism at is finest.



beastieboys25 on 17 March 2008
Soriku said:
beastieboys25 said:
Soriku said:
soccerdrew17 said:
ClaudeLv250 said:
soccerdrew17 said:
Soriku said:
soccerdrew17 said:
im not gona bet, but its still more likely that the kh team will still want to keep working on ps3. could change, but i think they will want to move up from ffvs13.

You do realize the KH team has little to no say where the game goes, right? It's all SE in general, and Disney (mostly Disney).


you do realize its directed by nomura, probably the most important person at se. if the team wants it on ps3, he will push for ps3, and se and disney will likely give it to him.

because se is the developer and have a decent record with the series so far (i hear it sells a few units), disney is likely to give the go ahead to anything se asks to develop in the ip. disney has no reason to push for any consoles, because that could cause a fallout.

You do realize that Disney has the ultimate say and that Nomura will have to go along with it whether he likes it or not or not be involved in the project at all, right? Disney will and has enacted their ability to make KH games without Nomura/SE's involvement. And Disney has every reason to push for a console, the entire purpose of KH is to bring Disney movies to Japan's mainstream. Not exactly going to happen on a console that's not really selling over there, is it?

I really don't understand that after SE got Crystal Tools/White Engine to work on Wii and even announced that the Wii was one of only three of their main platforms, people still seem to be tied to this notion that SE resents the console, that they have no intentions of putting any of their major franchises on it, and that their development teams would revolt if assigned to a Wii project even if it meant losing out on money nd even severing connections with the company that holds all the rights to Kingdom Hearts and its characters. It just doesn't make sense.

 


yes, the game no one cared about and no one bought. disney did a great job with that game. if nomura doesnt like it then he will not work on kh and that will greatly affect the series at least its reception.

i don't think the wii tools are 100% ready yet, but that doesn't really matter since kh3 at most is in very early production. the use of the wiiusing the same engine is that the tools are the same, not that it can run the same things. it makes it easier if devs have 1 set of tools to use for everything. they will still put the same games on the same consoles (less ps3 exclusives though, because of 360 and pc).


Why wouldn't Nomura like it? Is he in some way Sony exclusive? THen why is KH on the DS and The World Ends With You on the DS also (which is actually made by the KH team, unlike the 3 new KHs)? And guess what? There isn't a SINGLE KH team game on the PSP. Nomura is onyl directing one game on the PSP - KH: BBS. Since the KH team makes the main series of KH (read: makes, doesn't actually "own" it, which would mean it's owned by SE which it is not) and Nomura is basically the "head" of the KH team there is no way he would drop out. Nomura never said he would stay "Sony exclusive" and he will never say it. End discussion. No more to discuss.

And as for KH3 being in production (even early production) that is a NO. NO, NO, NO. Unless you mean it's in the planning stages (deciding where the game goes, and the basic idea for the game and stuff) then that's fine because that is most likely happening. They're not gonna wait forever. But if you mean actual production, SE (well, Nomura to be exact) said KH3 won't start actual development until Versus XIII is finished. Disney have already said they want a KH3, but it seems SE is kinda busy at the moment so they're holding it off for a little bit. I bet Disney has alreayd proposed and planned KH3 to go to the Wii since the Wii is what they're targeting with games (read: TARGETING, not staying exclusive to like some of you seem to think).

Also, like Claude said, Disney wanted KH partly for Japan to buy Disney movies. Is the PS3 doing well in Japan? Not really. That's why games like Fatal Frame and Monster Hunter have moved to the Wii because the Wii is selling well in Japan. Plus don't say Japan matters even though KH sells best in the West (which is not surprising because it has Disney which is popular in the West) because it sells well in Japan too. It sold 700k the first week in Japan on the PS2 and the Final Mix version of the KHs are...guess what...yep, Japan only, so Japan DOES matter, and like I said before, the Wii is doing well in Japan while the PS3 isn't.

Plus KH is targeted at kids and teens, which are foudn mostly on the Wii rather than the PS3, so the Wii fits the KH demographic. Why would they make KH3 on a console which is sellign worse than the Wii and is more expensive to make and doesn't fit the demographic when the Wii is holding up in ALL those areas?

That is all. And Nomura doesn't do a lot and definitely doesn't have that much power as a lot seem to think, sorry.

fanboyism at is finest.


Thanks for not reading and trolling. Your opinion means so much to me.

chiil soriku you are taking kh3 to serious who cares if it ends up on the wii or the ps3 by that time you will already own both consoles.



Baki on 05 May 2008

Sign me up for this "wager". I'm putting my "money" on KH 3 coming to PS3.



PREDICTION:

60M PS3's by the end of it's Life Span (Anything between 5 to 10 years)