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vivster said:
I don't really think there really is a chance for Sony to "lose". You know the Internet is Sony and the Internet decides who won. So Even if MS and Nintendo blow everathing out of the park and Sony did just average there will still be enough voices declaring Sony the winner that it won't be a clear loss.


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Yeah Sony can't match last year's as far as market impact goes probably but that's because they are still riding the waves of that conference. It's not like anyone else is introducing new hardware so it's not a disadvantage just an advantage lost. I'm hoping for some new indie stuff, a new AAA or two from the first party, Destiny showing of exclusive content, GTA5 1080p for PS4 (and Xbone but they won't mention that at their conference), new Ratchet for 2015 to match up with the movie, the Order gameplay, Driveclub gameplay (little bit since it's a racing game), and to top it all off an Uncharted trailer (not teaser a real one showing the basic story). Boom they have a solid show and unless MS does something I can't even think of right now they pretty much stay on current course (which means they continue to win).




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OfficerRaichu15 said:
I actually sadly have to agree
i feel microsoft and nintendo will just eat sony up this year especially with gears 4 and halo from microsoft
and zelda u and smash from nintendo


Halo 5 is 2015, Gears 4 2016...



I guess it doesn't really matter who "wins". But from a perception standpoint, M$ needs it more than anyone. Apparently Nintendo doesn't really care. M$ needs to swing the internet buzz their way a little and sometimes (see last E3) all you need is momentum heading in the right direction to get the ball rolling.

Just because M$ needs this, doesn't translate into it happening though.



It is near the end of the end....

Try to think of e3 like a financials statement.
When a company talks about earnings or previews on earnings or financials, the investors and market respond in kind. They look and see the ideas being used are either working or not, and it makes them think about the future of the company. Is the company successfully innovating? What makes them different? How do the numbers work here?

Similarly, when deciding whether one company "won" e3, you have to look at what the company is DOING. Not how exciting a trailer was, or how many guest appearances by Usher there were, etc.
What kinds of games are being made?
What do the announcements say about the future of the product?
Does anything change as a result of announcements?
What does the future look like?

Halo 5 trailer? Garbage.
The last guardian? Garbage.
Gears? Garbage.
Uncharted? Garbage.

What you're looking for:
1. Strong 3rd party support. 3rd party is the key to success.
2. momentum. An e3 conference is a narrative. The goal is to make the watcher climax :D
3. Variety. What's being shown needs to display the depth of the system, what they support.
4. Substance. E3 needs to be watched as if it's someone's first time seeing it. All this "every game was already announced BS". The only thing that detracts from a second showing, is a game that is already EXPECTED. This includes Halo/Gears/Killzone/MGS/Mario/Uncharted etc etc.

E3 is about surprise and momentum. The goal is to make a customer say to themselves, "i need to buy one right now". The company needs to make the consumer want the product immediately....to get in on the ground floor. I need this because this thing blows my mind.

Games we already KNOW are coming do not do that. Showing god of war at e3 does not make someone buy a console. Showing new IPs, new software, new ideas, or making a huge surprise announcement (like ff13 going multiplat) is what wins e3's. Sorry if you thought otherwise.

For a known franchise game to sell consoles, it has to be way beyond ANYTHING we could have possibly expected.

 

In closing, what won e3 for Sony last year wasn't the console itself. It was 2 specific things:
1. The price, coupled with major hardware power both undercutting and overpowering x1. "You don't want a kinect. You don't want limitations. You want gaming, we have gaming better and cheaper with our own unique innovations that you don't pay for." That is what sells a console.
2. The foundation. The idea that the console was built by input from every major developer and is designed to be as simple as possible shows PS is changing gears. They're looking to get the best possible experience every game every time. It's statements like that that sell a console today. "This console will ALWAYS have the better version". That is what sells a console.

This is what needs to be shown to "win" an e3.
Tell us why we should buy your console TODAY



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vivster said:
I don't really think there really is a chance for Sony to "lose". You know the Internet is Sony and the Internet decides who won. So Even if MS and Nintendo blow everathing out of the park and Sony did just average there will still be enough voices declaring Sony the winner that it won't be a clear loss.

which is good because most people who play games use the internet ergo most people who play games are Sony fans.




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People post "PS4 has no games"
Nothing happens

One post says XB1 has no games = ban
Another guy is even more nice about it but still = ban

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Anfebious said:
vivster said:
I don't really think there really is a chance for Sony to "lose". You know the Internet is Sony and the Internet decides who won. So Even if MS and Nintendo blow everathing out of the park and Sony did just average there will still be enough voices declaring Sony the winner that it won't be a clear loss.


From love to hate there is a short step. The internet can be anything, and it can change at any moment.

Sony already won the Internet. They can only lose it by doing something. They won't lose it by just doing nothing or not enough. And since I'm sure Sony will bring at least something and maybe 1 or 2 surprises I don't really see the chance for them to lose.



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It's E3. A company rarely actually wins E3 for a great conference based on honesty imho.

Sony had a great showing last year mostly because they just did the opposite of what MS was getting hammered for. And the lack of games doesn't mean anything when they can just show empty trailers for big games. Lets say they have a short teaser with no gameplay for Uncharted 4 and Last of Us 2. For all we know they won't come out until 2015 and 2016. They would still "win" E3 in many peoples eyes. Hell what did they show in terms of big AAA retail exclusives last year that have actually come out? Launch games, Infamous, and MLB?



SmithianChar said:
People post "PS4 has no games"
Nothing happens

One post says XB1 has no games = ban
Another guy is even more nice about it but still = ban

Go ahead and permaban Porcupeth. I have no interest in coming back to this cesspool of Nintendrones and Xbots, after this post
If you want a corner of the internet where you can jerk off to your failed systems, safe from reality, then by all means. Enjoy it.

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