Registering a handgun has nothing to do with privacy..... you register a car and to vote. We should have the right to know if Psycho Elliot owned a gun or not.

I don't believe people should have to register their cars. With voting it is sadly unaviodable and therfore not applicable.

I also dont believe in violating the rights of the innocent to catch the guilty.

Whilst that is true, it was due to a lower prevelance of guns to begin with.  And that was due to individual states tightening gun laws before the Federal Government did - you just proved Aielyn's point.

Every credible study ever undertaken demonstrates that all things being equal, less guns in society leads to less gun-related crime. The fact that criminals will break laws doesn't remove the need for effective gun control - thats about as sensible as labelling terrorism a crime 'because terrorists will still carry out acts of terror.'

Many of the same studies indicate that gun control needs to be an ongoing initiative and targeted against crime trends.  Banning handguns has consistently proven to be one of the most effective long-term reductors of gun-related death.

The NRA and its affiliates are a politically savvy group.  But pretending that their views on gun control have any grounding in scientific consensus, letalone scientific fact, is ridiculous.  Of all the Western nations, the pro-gun lobby is far and away the strongest in the USA.  It is no accident that gun-deaths per head of population are also sky high.  Argue your rights all you want.  Donate to the political cause all you want.  But don't pretend that an appalling lack of gun control doesn't play a major part, not just in the massacres we see like this one, but in the ridiculously enormous number of day to day (hour to hour) gun deaths in America.  At the end of the day, the science doesn't just fail to support that notion, it blatantly opposes it.

And because everyone loves a graph, here is that per-head-of-population I was talking about:

And I would attribute the deaths not to gun availibility but other causes such as cultural differences, the war on drugs and damage caused to the lower classes by the governments interventionsit policies.

Thinking that there is some intrinsic human right to gun ownership is a believe borne out of very specific contemporary circumstances unique to the United States that lack even a tenuous link to the reality of modern life today.

Simplified, at a time when it took 30 seconds and complete concentration to load a single bullet into a gun, it was felt that citizens owning weapons was an effectivd deterrent against foreign invasion and Government overreach.

With or without massive gun ownership it is ridiculous to think anyone is going to invade America. Furthermore, the use of guns against the government is only conceivable for crackpots, in a country that otherwise has world-leading civil liberty protections. If such a situation did arise, overwhelming numbers would quickly result in government victory, simply with more death on both sides.

I have already dealt with the scientific fact that criminals being criminals (which would include illegal 3D printing of guns) in no way negates the benefits of strong gun control.

As I said, you're free to make that assessment.

Its just not supported by any credible science.

I just don't understand why even while all these pro gun ownership laws are passed I still have to hear people talk about how any second the government is coming to take everyone's weapons and "from my cold dead hands." Blah blah blah.

I don't think most people have a problem with realistic gun ownership, a rifle for hunting, a pistol for protection. It's when you get into this sort of gun worship, let me buy 20 assault rifles, gotta collect em' all mentality that you start to creep me out.

Like Jon Stewart said, the problem with only a good guy with a gun kills a bad guy with a gun is that WE DON'T KNOW YOU ARE A GOOD GUY. There are certainly many instances of former "good guys" snapping. The heat of passion and anger can also cause people to overreact.

Of course people freak out when a couple of young guys walk into a Fast food restaurant with assault rifles. You talk about your freedoms, how about MY freedom to walk out into public and not be surrounded by a bunch of guns??

Cause that's what you guys want right? The Wild West again? You couldn't pay me to go to Georgia after the "guns everywhere" law passed.

And that's the sad truth, most gun owners are reasonable and most people respect individual's right to bare arms REASONABLY but it's these small fringe groups of extremists and the NRA directing this idea that some huge constitutional battle is going on. It doesn't exist. The most important thing to know about the NRA is that their number one goal is to sale as many guns as possible and fear is the ultimate salesman. They shouldn't be allowed to control our lawmakers and the direction of our society.

Me. We also need more automobile control, starting with those evil BMWs,  as he killed at least one of his victims with his Beamer.

The irony in this, Sandy Hook and TDK movie shooting says a lot about this country, gun Laws and how the media handles cases involving whites compared to none whites.

And that group happens to be the majority of gun owners.

Think about this there are approximately twice as many guns in the United States than there are automobiles however both are attributed to approximately the same number of deaths (cars slightly ahead of guns).

Also guns aren't just a "hobby." They are used to hunt, to protect one's self against crime or violent harm, and yes to ensure that the populace is able to defend itself against invasion or violent government tyranny.

People kill people and they will likely always do so. People also rob people, beat people, oppress people, enslave people, etc. etc. etc. Being armed is the individual's insurance against being a victim of another human being.