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Slarvax on 25 May 2014
DonFerrari said:
Slarvax said:
What was the profit with the PS2, expected to be broken?


Well I don't remember the numbers... but I'm certain some member will have the picture with the estimated profit per generation for the big 3 (Nintendo is ahead of all). I would estimate something around 10B total.

Oh yeah, I know that pic. I think Playstation lost most of the PS2 profits with PS3.

LOL @ no profit from Xbox... 



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bananaking21 on 25 May 2014

it took PS3 around 4 years to be profitable (HW). PS4 took 6 months. lol



Leadified on 25 May 2014
DonFerrari said:
Slarvax said:
What was the profit with the PS2, expected to be broken?


Well I don't remember the numbers... but I'm certain some member will have the picture with the estimated profit per generation for the big 3 (Nintendo is ahead of all). I would estimate something around 10B total.


I found one by year, I guess someone else could do the addition if they wanted to, I'm lazy.



think-man on 25 May 2014

pretty sure i saw this article on here tge other day, can't remember who posted it though.



 

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DonFerrari on 25 May 2014
Slarvax said:
DonFerrari said:
Slarvax said:
What was the profit with the PS2, expected to be broken?


Well I don't remember the numbers... but I'm certain some member will have the picture with the estimated profit per generation for the big 3 (Nintendo is ahead of all). I would estimate something around 10B total.

Oh yeah, I know that pic. I think Playstation lost most of the PS2 profits with PS3.

LOL @ no profit from Xbox... 

Yes PS3 at best didn't burn all the PS2 money. But pretty much close to it. Xbox is a sad case on that.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari on 25 May 2014
Leadified said:
DonFerrari said:
Slarvax said:
What was the profit with the PS2, expected to be broken?


Well I don't remember the numbers... but I'm certain some member will have the picture with the estimated profit per generation for the big 3 (Nintendo is ahead of all). I would estimate something around 10B total.


I found one by year, I guess someone else could do the addition if they wanted to, I'm lazy.

Thank you very much.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Dr.Henry_Killinger on 25 May 2014

I just hope they don't forget to give us value if they want to chase profits. Increase the value of PS+ to get more subscribers not charge subscribers more money.



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hunter_alien on 25 May 2014

Makes sense. This is why I doubt Sony will discontinue the PSVita. With its current strong numbers in Japan, and heavy online integration, I doubt that they are loosing money on it



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KingdomHeartsFan on 25 May 2014

Hopefully they don't turn PS into a streaming service.



Aura7541 on 25 May 2014

This is great news for Sony. There were already reports of the PS4 possibly having its internals changed to reduce manufacturing costs even further (http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/05/21/new-ps4-and-ps3-models-possibly-outed-by-certification-request-filed-by-sony/ ). I'm quite surprised that profitability in hardware has been achieved so quickly and it's good because Sony has one less thing to worry about.