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tbone51 on 24 May 2014
BraLoD said:
padib said:
However, as Nintendo has often shown, unless they make big mistakes like overpricing their console (WiiU), they always are the greatest seller of video games. 


Tell me how you reached that conclusion, just because the Wii sold more than the PS3?
Sony with only 3 gens, and all the 3 Nintendo where there too, outsold Nintendo with 5 gens, and 2 of then Sony wasn't there to compete.
Actually it's the opposite, if Sony doesn't screw around, it always win.
PS1, PS2, PS3 last years, PS4 and total numbers support me better than the Wii supports you.
The handhelds (or portable, call as you wish) are the Nintendo domination, and the reason is one, yes one, and it is called Pokémon.
Ever since Pokémon appeared no one could stay in the same ground as Nintendo in this market. And as long as Pokémon stays, Nintendo wins by default.

He's talking Software not hardware and he's correct on that!



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Areal-Llort on 24 May 2014

No, Sony does not win by default but most fanboys like to think that.



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Play4Fun on 24 May 2014
Phantom-Lord said:
tbone51 said:
Phantom-Lord said:

Sunce sony has come to market....not hard to understand. Sony started in 1995, you fgoing back to duck hunt in the mid 80's try and keep up.

This includes the Wii and the DS, which came out after 1995. If you go lower in the list you will find Mario 64, which ranks higher than any sony game, even Gran Turismo.

Again your post proves nothng, post total WW ssoftware sales since 1995 for sony and nintendo....your post is meaningless. TotAL, meaning all software sales, including third party software..... Who has sold more hardware and software.

 

what planet do you live on whereonly exclusive software = sales? Sony moves way more software an hardware globally then nintendo by a large margin.,

WTF.... Bro, your wrong by a mile, Nintendo has huge SW sales. I dont kno why your making things up o.O

Umm they pale in comparison to Sonys total since they entered the console market in 1995, that's fact.

No, it's not.

Do a comparison of first party software sales on PS2 and Wii, their two most successful consoles.

Wii's FP SW sales dwarf PS2's despite that console selling 50M more. 

If there's one thing that's always been consistent on Nintendo console is that their software always sell  well.



Azhraell on 24 May 2014
Anfebious said:
Phantom-Lord has a very accurate word to be described but I fear no one will understand the word.

It's a very cool word we use here in Argentina. It starts with a P.

Pelotudo? Did I win?:o



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think-man on 24 May 2014
Play4Fun said:
think-man said:
Play4Fun said:


Each their own what? That was fact, not opinion.

No it can't be proven, thus it's an opinion :)

 

Good day sir.

Wii's success was due to it's simple, accessible and intuitive controller, Launch software that made great use of that controller (WiiSports, Wii Fit, Wii Play), it's cheap $250 price point, and the fact that it targeted consumers that the industry, including Sony, were not targetting (Blue ocean vs red ocean).

Whatexactly would have made a difference in how it sold? Hhhmm?

Sigh, I never said anything about whatever you're talking about. I said the Wii would have sold the same amount but PS3 would have won the gen through more console sales. Wii would have still been 100 million or whatever it is but ps3 would have been around 110-120 million if it didn't lose to the xbox.

 

Now :P 



 

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menx64 on 24 May 2014
_crazy_man_ said:

 jaja even though this gif is very funny, is sad that the best post of the topic is an abandon thread gif... 

OT: Sony does not win by default. No company wins by default. For me Nintendo always wins Since I only buy their consoles (and PC), but thats me.



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Play4Fun on 24 May 2014
think-man said:
Play4Fun said:
think-man said:
Play4Fun said:


Each their own what? That was fact, not opinion.

No it can't be proven, thus it's an opinion :)

 

Good day sir.

Wii's success was due to it's simple, accessible and intuitive controller, Launch software that made great use of that controller (WiiSports, Wii Fit, Wii Play), it's cheap $250 price point, and the fact that it targeted consumers that the industry, including Sony, were not targetting (Blue ocean vs red ocean).

Whatexactly would have made a difference in how it sold? Hhhmm?

Sigh, I never said anything about whatever you're talking about. I said the Wii would have sold the same amount but PS3 would have won the gen through more console sales. Wii would have still been 100 million or whatever it is but ps3 would have been around 110-120 million if it didn't lose to the xbox.

 

Now :P 


To quote you, " it can't be proven, thus it's an opinion"

Sure, avoiding the $599 price and difficult to develop for hardware would have benefitted PS3, but it's not like MS stumbled on success with 360.

They took steps to get where they were:

. They made sure they got out of the gate before Sony

.They bought third party exclusive content

. They made sure they had the best online system

. They did pretty well with using Kinect to boost sales mid-gen.

 

So yeah, while PS3 would have taken/kept some of  360's consumers had it not been for the hardware development problems or $599 fuck up, you can't prove it would have sold $110-120m otherwise, can ya. MS weren't sitting on their ass and doing nothing to push 360's success.

I should probably end with something snarky similar to good day, sir but I'm not in the mood for that .



think-man on 24 May 2014
Play4Fun said:
think-man said:
Play4Fun said:

Wii's success was due to it's simple, accessible and intuitive controller, Launch software that made great use of that controller (WiiSports, Wii Fit, Wii Play), it's cheap $250 price point, and the fact that it targeted consumers that the industry, including Sony, were not targetting (Blue ocean vs red ocean).

Whatexactly would have made a difference in how it sold? Hhhmm?

Sigh, I never said anything about whatever you're talking about. I said the Wii would have sold the same amount but PS3 would have won the gen through more console sales. Wii would have still been 100 million or whatever it is but ps3 would have been around 110-120 million if it didn't lose to the xbox.

 

Now :P 


To quote you, " it can't be proven, thus it's an opinion"

Sure, avoiding the $599 price and difficult to develop for hardware would have benefitted PS3, but it's not like MS stumbled on success with 360.

They took steps to get where they were:

. They made sure they got out of the gate before Sony

.They bought third party exclusive content

. They made sure they had the best online system

. They did pretty well with using Kinect to boost sales mid-gen.

 

So yeah, while PS3 would have taken/kept some of  360's consumers had it not been for the hardware development problems or $599 fuck up, you can't prove it would have sold $110-120m otherwise, can ya. MS weren't sitting on their ass and doing nothing to push 360's success.

I should probably end with something snarky similar to good day, sir but I'm not in the mood for that .

Yeah I can't prove it, but you can't prove that it wouldn't have either. We can only speculate thus making it an opinion and not a fact.



 

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Play4Fun on 24 May 2014
think-man said:
Play4Fun said:
think-man said:
Play4Fun said:

Wii's success was due to it's simple, accessible and intuitive controller, Launch software that made great use of that controller (WiiSports, Wii Fit, Wii Play), it's cheap $250 price point, and the fact that it targeted consumers that the industry, including Sony, were not targetting (Blue ocean vs red ocean).

Whatexactly would have made a difference in how it sold? Hhhmm?

Sigh, I never said anything about whatever you're talking about. I said the Wii would have sold the same amount but PS3 would have won the gen through more console sales. Wii would have still been 100 million or whatever it is but ps3 would have been around 110-120 million if it didn't lose to the xbox.

 

Now :P 

 


To quote you, " it can't be proven, thus it's an opinion"

Sure, avoiding the $599 price and difficult to develop for hardware would have benefitted PS3, but it's not like MS stumbled on success with 360.

They took steps to get where they were:

. They made sure they got out of the gate before Sony

.They bought third party exclusive content

. They made sure they had the best online system

. They did pretty well with using Kinect to boost sales mid-gen.

 

So yeah, while PS3 would have taken/kept some of  360's consumers had it not been for the hardware development problems or $599 fuck up, you can't prove it would have sold $110-120m otherwise, can ya. MS weren't sitting on their ass and doing nothing to push 360's success.

I should probably end with something snarky similar to good day, sir but I'm not in the mood for that .

Yeah I can't prove it, but you can't prove that it wouldn't have either. We can only speculate thus making it an opinion and not a fact.

Well, I proved my point about Wii's sales.
So I win the argument and you lose.

 

How's that for snarky? Good day, sir.