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S.T.A.G.E. on 25 May 2014
JGarret said:

His post is just a big WTF.

Surprised Sony is attending E3?...what the hell..


Exactly. Nintendo isnt going to face Sony and Microsoft head to head because of Nintendo and no one else.



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PigPen on 25 May 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
PigPen said:
Nintendo and Microsoft has capital (money). I'm actually surprise that Sony is attending E3. Simply put, Nintendo and Microsoft can change its outcome but it's going to take money. Sony has third party developers in its back pocket. Microsoft needs to fallow Nintendo lead with exclusives. Nintendo is doing it big with exclusives and it will only get better. That's out of Sony's league right now.


You have it backwards. Microsoft uses third parties more than either of the two. Most of their exclusives are coming from third parties. Sony and Nintendo are the self sufficient ones. Microsoft has third parties in their back pocket and if you never paid attention to last gen Sony's first party grew to greater heights and Microsoft cant catch up to them because they suck at developing.  This is why you are going to see a lot of dirty tricks on Microsofts end. They have to catch up to Sony in some way and they will pay up the ass for third party to pick up the slack for what they lack with exclusives.

Microsoft is not stupid.  They will not be paying third party up the #!%.  Why when they can fund their own game.  Microsoft has Sunset Overdrive and didn't pay boat loads of money.  Do not underestimate Microsoft either.  They going to go to E3 swinging.  Even Nintendo shouldn't take them lightly.  You can make almost anything happen with money, and that's what Microsoft and Nintendo have.



Agente42 on 25 May 2014

Two things: the sony has not won this gen, people completely disregard portable to assert that sony won something.

She always lost in portable and won twice in the home console. That's it.

Never was the company that sold more games, rarely was the company that most profited .

A Pyrrhic victory



S.T.A.G.E. on 25 May 2014
PigPen said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
PigPen said:
Nintendo and Microsoft has capital (money). I'm actually surprise that Sony is attending E3. Simply put, Nintendo and Microsoft can change its outcome but it's going to take money. Sony has third party developers in its back pocket. Microsoft needs to fallow Nintendo lead with exclusives. Nintendo is doing it big with exclusives and it will only get better. That's out of Sony's league right now.


You have it backwards. Microsoft uses third parties more than either of the two. Most of their exclusives are coming from third parties. Sony and Nintendo are the self sufficient ones. Microsoft has third parties in their back pocket and if you never paid attention to last gen Sony's first party grew to greater heights and Microsoft cant catch up to them because they suck at developing.  This is why you are going to see a lot of dirty tricks on Microsofts end. They have to catch up to Sony in some way and they will pay up the ass for third party to pick up the slack for what they lack with exclusives.

Microsoft is not stupid.  They will not be paying third party up the #!%.  Why when they can fund their own game.  Microsoft has Sunset Overdrive and didn't pay boat loads of money.  Do not underestimate Microsoft either.  They going to go to E3 swinging.  Even Nintendo shouldn't take them lightly.  You can make almost anything happen with money, and that's what Microsoft and Nintendo have.


Microsoft has already been paying third party up the ass to beat Sony in the launch in perception. Havent you been paying attention? Microsoft took Sonys table scraps with Sunset Overdrive. Insomniac has been working with Sony for over twenty years and that game is basically the culmination of all the years of working with Sony. 

Microsoft isnt being underestimated. They've had three generations and a poor offering of first party in all of them thus far. Microsofts best first party are the games they've purchaseed from others either after they purchased their company or the IP itself. 

Lost Odyssey

Blue Dragon

Gears of War

Halo

Anything made by Rare

Miceosoft left to their own devices is unproductive.

Think about it.



S.T.A.G.E. on 25 May 2014
Anfebious said:
Assuming that Sony is still around for the next generation then yeah, I think they could "automatically win".


Sony is already profiting off of the PS4. Its pure profit for them for the rest of the generation.



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PigPen on 25 May 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
JGarret said:

His post is just a big WTF.

Surprised Sony is attending E3?...what the hell..


Exactly. Nintendo isnt going to face Sony and Microsoft head to head because of Nintendo and no one else.


Nintendo don't need to face Sony or Microsoft.  They can just do a Nintendo Direct to show their games.  That's all Nintendo needs is to show off its games. After everything Sony is going through, is it unreasonable for someone to be surprise they're coming to E3.  It's the exclusive games that's going to win out and all three is coming to E3 to win.



PigPen on 25 May 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
PigPen said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
PigPen said:
Nintendo and Microsoft has capital (money). I'm actually surprise that Sony is attending E3. Simply put, Nintendo and Microsoft can change its outcome but it's going to take money. Sony has third party developers in its back pocket. Microsoft needs to fallow Nintendo lead with exclusives. Nintendo is doing it big with exclusives and it will only get better. That's out of Sony's league right now.


You have it backwards. Microsoft uses third parties more than either of the two. Most of their exclusives are coming from third parties. Sony and Nintendo are the self sufficient ones. Microsoft has third parties in their back pocket and if you never paid attention to last gen Sony's first party grew to greater heights and Microsoft cant catch up to them because they suck at developing.  This is why you are going to see a lot of dirty tricks on Microsofts end. They have to catch up to Sony in some way and they will pay up the ass for third party to pick up the slack for what they lack with exclusives.

Microsoft is not stupid.  They will not be paying third party up the #!%.  Why when they can fund their own game.  Microsoft has Sunset Overdrive and didn't pay boat loads of money.  Do not underestimate Microsoft either.  They going to go to E3 swinging.  Even Nintendo shouldn't take them lightly.  You can make almost anything happen with money, and that's what Microsoft and Nintendo have.


Microsoft has already been paying third party up the ass to beat Sony in the launch in perception. Havent you been paying attention? Microsoft took Sonys table scraps with Sunset Overdrive. Insomniac has been working with Sony for over twenty years and that game is basically the culmination of all the years of working with Sony. 

Microsoft isnt being underestimated. They've had three generations and a poor offering of first party in all of them thus far. Microsofts best first party are the games they've purchaseed from others either after they purchased their company or the IP itself. 

Lost Odyssey

Blue Dragon

Gears of War

Halo

Anything made by Rare

Miceosoft left to their own devices is unproductive.

Think about it.


No, Isomniac went with a Microsoft exclusive to keep the rights to the IP. Haven't you been paying attention.



S.T.A.G.E. on 25 May 2014
PigPen said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
JGarret said:

His post is just a big WTF.

Surprised Sony is attending E3?...what the hell..


Exactly. Nintendo isnt going to face Sony and Microsoft head to head because of Nintendo and no one else.


Nintendo don't need to face Sony or Microsoft.  They can just do a Nintendo Direct to show their games.  That's all Nintendo needs is to show off its games. After everything Sony is going through, is it unreasonable for someone to be surprise they're coming to E3.  It's the exclusive games that's going to win out and all three is coming to E3 to win.


The last time Nintendo won an E3 based on top quality exclusive games was 2010.



S.T.A.G.E. on 25 May 2014
PigPen said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


No, Isomniac went with a Microsoft exclusive to keep the rights to the IP. Haven't you been paying attention.


I know this. That doesnt negate the fact that Insomniac worked closely with Sony when they make their games. Microsoft and Insomniac wouldnt work closely, Microsoft would just say "keep it exclusive for us, we dont need to IP". Have you also thought that Sony never bought Insomniac after working with them exclusively for god knows how long? Of course Insomniac is going to want to keep something for themselves.



think-man on 25 May 2014
PigPen said:
Nintendo and Microsoft has capital (money). I'm actually surprise that Sony is attending E3. Simply put, Nintendo and Microsoft can change its outcome but it's going to take money. Sony has third party developers in its back pocket. Microsoft needs to fallow Nintendo lead with exclusives. Nintendo is doing it big with exclusives and it will only get better. That's out of Sony's league right now.


That's the stupidest thing I've read all day.



 

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