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rutea7 on 22 May 2014
vivster said:

Some people argue that the cake audience in Japan has shrunk massively and it's all about cereal bars now. They try to proof it by pointing to the abysmal sales of Nutcakes. But they're forgetting that part of the population are simply allergic to or just don't like nuts. Pound cake was always popular in Japan and the new recipe is promising. But people just don't want to wait for the next big bake sale to see if pound cake can retain its popularity and instead are calling it cold and inedible.

I for one am looking forward to this year's pastry show. It will give the people of Japan even more reason to indulge in the next bake sale.


LOL, love the analogy

@bolded: me too, TGS should be very promising this year



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PigPen on 22 May 2014

He said that the PS4 failed, and as of now it did with numbers coming out looking the way they do. He never said the PS4 won't sell. Hell, the Wii U dropped after launch too but it's still selling. He did say he think the PS4 will come in last. I going to give that to the XOne, but PS4 will not outsell the Wii U in Japan. Maybe a little to late.



Dr.Henry_Killinger on 22 May 2014
jlmurph2 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
jlmurph2 said:


LOL Ya gotta calm down bro.

It's probably cause I've been awake for 27 hours, my bs tolerance is dangerously low.


Try Jury Duty 2 days in a row right after working from 11pm-7am and then come back for another 11pm-7am (now). Running on 4 hours of sleep right now in all of that.

Living the American Dream, amirite?



In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank

Porcupeth on 22 May 2014
PigPen said:
He said that the PS4 failed, and as of now it did with numbers coming out looking the way they do. He never said the PS4 won't sell. Hell, the Wii U dropped after launch too but it's still selling. He did say he think the PS4 will come in last. I going to give that to the XOne, but PS4 will not outsell the Wii U in Japan. Maybe a little to late.



I'm sure it's going to be PS4 > Wii U > XB1 when all is said and done, and you can quote me on that when this gen ends.



Lawlight on 22 May 2014
jlmurph2 said:
I wonder why they even released PS4 there if they knew they had no big games for the audience.


So that they can sell hundreds of thousands of consoles in Japan instead of waiting until a big game comes out.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 22 May 2014
PigPen said:
He said that the PS4 failed, and as of now it did with numbers coming out looking the way they do. He never said the PS4 won't sell. Hell, the Wii U dropped after launch too but it's still selling. He did say he think the PS4 will come in last. I going to give that to the XOne, but PS4 will not outsell the Wii U in Japan. Maybe a little to late.

problem is failure implies that it will fail to meet healthy sales if we are trying to be objective here. I mean by his logic one could easily argue that the PS$ failed in Japan in November 2013.



In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank

jlmurph2 on 22 May 2014
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
jlmurph2 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
jlmurph2 said:


LOL Ya gotta calm down bro.

It's probably cause I've been awake for 27 hours, my bs tolerance is dangerously low.


Try Jury Duty 2 days in a row right after working from 11pm-7am and then come back for another 11pm-7am (now). Running on 4 hours of sleep right now in all of that.

Living the American Dream, amirite?


I wanna go home so I can dream lol 



duduspace1 on 22 May 2014
Ucell said:
duduspace1 said:
Ucell said:
duduspace1 said:
The truth as I see it is that all the consoles have continued from where their last Gen forebears ended, the PS3 ended very well while the Wii didn't as it got a lot of casuals onboard earlier on in its life and got tagged as a none core gamer system, a notion further helped by it being massively underpowered compared to its competition.

The Wii U is still being viewed as a kiddies/casuals console by a lot of gamers and it is not helped at all by the media, I speak from personal experience about this as I kept telling a friend at work about the Wii U (which he kept referring to as the Wii for over 6 months), then he came visiting one day and I put in 'Sonic All Star Racing transformed'' and the first sentence he uttered was 'That isn't a Wii' to which I replied, 'That is what I've been telling you for the past 6 months' , so many people have never tried the Wii U and saddle it with the Wii's legacy whereas the Wii U tries to be 'All things to all men'.

The PS4 is currently selling on hype and the legacy of the PS3 which finished the strongest in the last generation but not on its current game selection, even the expected Graphic improvements has been quite underwhelming. My younger brother for example currently regrets selling off his PS3 and a decent collection of last gen games (which includes Uncharted Drake's deception) to be an early PS4 adopter. The only game he likes so far in this current gen is NBA2k14

Sony should be careful not to get complacent with their game output or else what is going on in Japan might well spread worldwide. It seems the Japanese market is the least influenced by Hype. For them, it is all about the games unlike the 'Fanboys' of the Western world, no matter their orientation.

Speak for yourself (or your brother) when you're saying PS4 is selling on hype alone. I have a PS4, and I didn't buy it on hype alone. I bought it for Infamous: Second Son which exceeded my expectations, both graphically and gameplay wise.

I could very well say that Wii U sold on hype alone in its first two months, when it only had a minigame-like title and NSMB U, an HD version of a 3DS game.


And you would have been right if the Wii U didn't bring a massive leap over the Wii with HD and different game play possibilities in the Control pad.

Would you rate Infamous over Uncharted for example ?

Its not Sony's fault that they jumped to HD 8 years ago with the PS3. PS4 is a huge jump over a PS3, granted you have a 1080p TV to view it on. As for that tablet controller, I prefer any DualShock over it. That tablet is so large and uninviting and doesn't even have a good touchscreen.

I wouldn't rate Infamous over Uncharted, but I do not need to do so. Just because its not better than Uncharted doesn't mean its great. Besides fact is I didn't expect it to come anywhere close to Uncharted. But it actually did, so then trhats just a plus.

Now tell me, would you rate NSMB over 3D World or MK? See how it goes both ways.

I'd agree my eyesight isn't so good  (even though I don't use spectacles) or maybe its just that I can't appreciate the finer nuances of graphic improvement but I wasn't much impressed with the graphics in KzSF (at least not enough to recommend my brother chucking away the PS3 and shell out £350 for the PS4 although he was quite happy to do so at the time even though he regrets it now and has to play the waiting game with Sony's release schedule). 

I also haven't been disappointed by any of Nintendo's 1st party releases, the graphical move from SD to HD alone makes them worth it on my 50" tv and they at the very least match their predecessors in terms of game play.

I like the DS4 by the way, small but significant improvement over DS3 with the touchpad but the Wii U gamepad makes so much possible and I absolutely love it although I agree with you that Nintendo could have made it better.

And just so you know, I'm not anti-Sony although I have a soft spot for Nintendo, I'm only trying to point out why the PS4 hasn't come bursting out of the blocks in Japan. Their culture and way of judging things is different from the Western view (which is often over-influenced by the media in my opinion).

When there are games on the PS4 in Japan that make the move from the PS3 worthwhile, the PS4 will witness a change in fortunes in Japan but they'd better make sure the Wii U hasn't swept all potential buyers away before then as the 3DS did to the Vita.



PigPen on 22 May 2014
Porcupeth said:
PigPen said:
He said that the PS4 failed, and as of now it did with numbers coming out looking the way they do. He never said the PS4 won't sell. Hell, the Wii U dropped after launch too but it's still selling. He did say he think the PS4 will come in last. I going to give that to the XOne, but PS4 will not outsell the Wii U in Japan. Maybe a little to late.



I'm sure it's going to be PS4 > Wii U > XB1 when all is said and done, and you can quote me on that when this gen ends.

I'm pretty sure you're wrong.  Wii U > PS4 > XOne



PigPen on 22 May 2014
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
PigPen said:
He said that the PS4 failed, and as of now it did with numbers coming out looking the way they do. He never said the PS4 won't sell. Hell, the Wii U dropped after launch too but it's still selling. He did say he think the PS4 will come in last. I going to give that to the XOne, but PS4 will not outsell the Wii U in Japan. Maybe a little to late.

problem is failure implies that it will fail to meet healthy sales if we are trying to be objective here. I mean by his logic one could easily argue that the PS$ failed in Japan in November 2013.


So buy your logic Nintendo can take over Japan.