there is always the PSN which titles can be made for under $200k.

20 Million cost is ouch.

But seeing how they made around 10 Million profit with the current sales.

50% ROI isn't ouch...

It's actually pretty good...

fixed a few oversights for ya.

Was this before or after marketing? I know that Gears of War cost $10 mil. before marketing, and $20 mil. after, but they didn't have to include the cost of making UE3.0 in that number, whereas Naughty Dog is including the cost of the ps3 engine they created while making Uncharted, as it was all one and the same project.

I think Capcom said at some point to break even on a game they needed to sell 500k. I imagine they were talking about games with a budget of around 20mill.

However it's hard to tell. Apparently DMC4 needed to ship around 1.8million to break even.. I suppose if we compare it to LP, which cost 20mill to make and 20mill to advertise then maybe 1.8mill is about right. Would mean Dmc cost a little more to develop then the costs of doing it multiplatform.

I would imagine Uncharted cost 20mill then advertising. So maybe 30mill? 40? I don't live in America or the Uk so have no idea the amount it was advertised.

So assume uncharted had to sell maybe 750k-1mill to break even. It has probably shipped around 1.5million or something.

Hard to know though, maybe capcom needed that much if they were publishing and developing. I have no idea how much ND get from each game sold.

If we assume Killzone 2 costs 50million to make then probably what? 70-80million with advertising. So yea around 2million shipped to break even would be about right. Considering the first killzone sold 750k in america (no idea how much elsewhere, maybe 1.5million WW shipped is a reasonable guess) on a system with a much bigger install base, it could be a problem for Guerilla and Sony.

 They are owned by Sony, so Sony should be making all the revenue. 0_o

Absolutely, not arguing at all with the game's quality, or value.

But if you're showing this as evidence that making PS3 games isn't expensive? No, that is not something this game proves. Again, it suggests quite the opposite, unless you were under the impression that games cost 40 million to make on average.

20 million effectively doubles the cost from last generation. That is not cheap. The fact that development costs didn't quadruple doesn't make doubling costs good, just less bad than some ridiculous inflationary statistic.

Don't Sony or MSFT cover some of the marketing costs for exclusives ?

 I mean, that would kinda make sense if they did..

20 millions isn't cheap but you gotta realize some titles are assured to sell several millions, that wasn't a given for Uncharted but for games like MGS4 or AC they know in advance they will be million sellers and they have dedicate a decent budget to match those expectations.

I woudn't be surprised if a game like AC costed around 50 millions with marketing costs included. But they sold over 5 million copies and the next 2 games in the trilogy will be cheaper to make and bring even more cash.

I mean these days, any decent action movie cost around 100 Millions or more with marketing costs included.......

We've gotten used to a certain level of graphics for top games and those do not come cheap.....

Insomniac is 2nd party

So they break sony off with a HUGE chunk. :)

thats all I was trying to say.

Lmao how many of those have been bundled? 5k? 10k?