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KylieDog said:
Naum said:
KylieDog said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
So you mean to tell me that Nintendo screwed over Sony and Phillips? That makes excellent material for my book.


When it comes to Sony, Nintendo screwed themselves.


no they did not, they saved themselves.


Saved themselves by instead of teaming with Sony...encouraging Sony have their own consle that totally dominated Nintendo for all further generations.

I'd argue that Sony was good for the industry and a better, more stable industry is good for Nintendo in the long-term. More competitive markets are always healthier and more stable than less competitive markets, even if video game consoles aren't that much competitive of markets (oligopolies.)



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KylieDog said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
So you mean to tell me that Nintendo screwed over Sony and Phillips? That makes excellent material for my book.


When it comes to Sony, Nintendo screwed themselves.


Actually at the time it was best discision for Nintendo since Sony basically wanted an ungodly amount of the profits and control of the CD part of the business.



Ka-pi96 said:

Patent for a 'pointing device'?

Just another patent troll

You must live in absolute bliss...

http://www.google.com/patents/US6285379

https://www.google.com/patents/EP1573498B1?cl=en

The application of the first patent in Wii/Wii U evident in games like Wii Sports, however this may impact Kinect on the Xbox 360 and Xbox One, as well as Sony's PlayStation Move on the PS3 and PS4.

The second patent has a greater influence on Sony's PlayStation Move more so than Nintendo Wii Remote or Wii U Remote.  Neither the Wii nor the Wii U use a camera to define the motion of the device.  Sony's Move does.

Phillips sought a patent suit with Nintendo because it likely offered the best chance to win.  Thus, if Phillips wins against Nintendo, proving it's case once, then it can move against Sony and Microsoft.  I don't think it'll do so with the second patent.  I could be wrong, but at face value it doesn't look it.  The second one it clearly has a valid argument that Nintendo violated that patent.  Wii Sports is a clear example.

For the second one Phillips will go after Sony if they haven't already agreed to license the patent.



BlkPaladin said:
KylieDog said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
So you mean to tell me that Nintendo screwed over Sony and Phillips? That makes excellent material for my book.


When it comes to Sony, Nintendo screwed themselves.


Actually at the time it was best discision for Nintendo since Sony basically wanted an ungodly amount of the profits and control of the CD part of the business.

You mean the non-exsistent part of the buisness, cause CD games on consoles didn't exist prior. Not to mention, Nintendo set the prescedent for total control of the format. Had they compromised, console gaming could be drastically different. But regardless of their disagreements, Nintendo publically embarassed Sony and costs them millions, you can't conviently ignore the public part of the fiasco and then speculate on what happened in private to paint Nintendo as the victim.



In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank

At least fans should be thankful that the Nintendo Playstation was in development because otherwise Sony would not have been able to use a SNES style controller.  Imagine if they stuck to one of their own early prototypes.



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Adinnieken said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Patent for a 'pointing device'?

Just another patent troll 

You must live in absolute bliss...

http://www.google.com/patents/US6285379

https://www.google.com/patents/EP1573498B1?cl=en

The application of the first patent in Wii/Wii U evident in games like Wii Sports, however this may impact Kinect on the Xbox 360 and Xbox One, as well as Sony's PlayStation Move on the PS3 and PS4.

The second patent has a greater influence on Sony's PlayStation Move more so than Nintendo Wii Remote or Wii U Remote.  Neither the Wii nor the Wii U use a camera to define the motion of the device.  Sony's Move does.

Phillips sought a patent suit with Nintendo because it likely offered the best chance to win.  Thus, if Phillips wins against Nintendo, proving it's case once, then it can move against Sony and Microsoft.  I don't think it'll do so with the second patent.  I could be wrong, but at face value it doesn't look it.  The second one it clearly has a valid argument that Nintendo violated that patent.  Wii Sports is a clear example.

For the second one Phillips will go after Sony if they haven't already agreed to license the patent.

 

 

As I said. The first patent -> NES Power Glove. Second patent ... Nintendo do not use camera. These patents hit only in sony and ms.