Bold prediction. But I'll go with the gamepad. I don't think the WiiU will bomb that hard and the attach rate for Kinect will be lower than last gen.

Doubt it but least your prediction is more bold than most of the bold predictions we have had lately

tbone51 said: RolStoppable said: Not sure about that, given that development of Kinect games will effectively stop, thus rendering the peripheral virtually pointless. By being removed so early from a forced bundle, Kinect's chances to to fulfill this prediction are quite slim. Microsoft will have to fight for relevance in the coming years and they aren't going to do that with their Kinect SKU. Talk about timing, Look wat just popped up!  http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/05/19/layoffs-hit-rare-following-kinect-changes-and-poor-sales?abthid=537a23384d314d7c3e00000c Such a waste for Rare, hopefully they let them do whats best and make real games! OT: I think its too early to tell, can go either way. Also stop telling people WiiU wont hit this mark(Ex:20mil-25mil), you dont kno the future, its been proven time and time again... thank you!

I'll tell people what I like thanks, do you not grasp a prediction? I'm hardly going to say it might hit 20m when I don't think it will. So yeah, it won't hit anywhere near 20m (not sure why anyone else would need evidence for this given every single trend so far ...).

Seece said: tbone51 said: I'll tell people what I like thanks, do you not grasp a prediction? I'm hardly going to say it might hit 20m when I don't think it will. So yeah, it won't hit anywhere near 20m (not sure why anyone else would need evidence for this given every single trend so far ...).

Yes trends! Like your trend for NPD which you were clearly wrong.

Yes wiiu will sell between 12mil-18mil lifetime but its not exactly set in stone. You only think of so called "Trends" when things in the past have obviously done things to break expectations or sometimes even fail miserably.

All im saying is stop thinking cuz "This happened, then its already obvious that this will" comments. Its not like the guy was making an unpredictable post. 25mil wiiu lifetime? Most likely not but last i checked we dont have a crstal ball.

Just look at your own threads where you predicted wrong. PS3+3DS are prime examples of this. WiiU is practically a loss for the 8th in gaming but just because you have numbers that say wiiu will be 12mil-15mil lifetime doesn't mean its going to be 100% wat happens. Right??? 

tbone51 said: Seece said: tbone51 said: I'll tell people what I like thanks, do you not grasp a prediction? I'm hardly going to say it might hit 20m when I don't think it will. So yeah, it won't hit anywhere near 20m (not sure why anyone else would need evidence for this given every single trend so far ...). Yes trends! Like your trend for NPD which you were clearly wrong. Yes wiiu will sell between 12mil-18mil lifetime but its not exactly set in stone. You only think of so called "Trends" when things in the past have obviously done things to break expectations or sometimes even fail miserably. All im saying is stop thinking cuz "This happened, then its already obvious that this will" comments. Its not like the guy was making an unpredictable post. 25mil wiiu lifetime? Most likely not but last i checked we dont have a crstal ball. Just look at your own threads where you predicted wrong. PS3+3DS are prime examples of this. WiiU is practically a loss for the 8th in gaming but just because you have numbers that say wiiu will be 12mil-15mil lifetime doesn't mean its going to be 100% wat happens. Right???

Monthly trend /= an entire lifetime of trends for WiiU. I'm not going to stop making predictions because I've been wrong in the past, at the time, with the info I have I'll make the best prediction I can, and right now that shows WiiU around 15m. Add to that, given it's been over 18 months and Nintendo clearly don't see a turn around, it would take something very bizzare for WiiU to get to 25m. Saying it's possible? No, I don't think it's possible so I'm not going to pretend it is.

Also, the jury is still out for the 3DS 70k thread. It averaged 25k in US during April but Europe has been shown to be far more below that than we expected.

I disagree. The kinect will flop on its own.

kowenicki said: MoHasanie said: I disagree. The kinect will flop on its own. Isn't that what was said about the last kinect?

Someone said there wa smore chance of Hitler coming back from the dead than Kinect selling 20 million (in toastboys prediction thread) and a lot of other similar comments made.

kowenicki said: MoHasanie said: I disagree. The kinect will flop on its own. Isn't that what was said about the last kinect?

Yes, but people aren't interested anymore. It was a fad. 

Seece said: tbone51 said: Seece said: tbone51 said: I'll tell people what I like thanks, do you not grasp a prediction? I'm hardly going to say it might hit 20m when I don't think it will. So yeah, it won't hit anywhere near 20m (not sure why anyone else would need evidence for this given every single trend so far ...). Yes trends! Like your trend for NPD which you were clearly wrong. Yes wiiu will sell between 12mil-18mil lifetime but its not exactly set in stone. You only think of so called "Trends" when things in the past have obviously done things to break expectations or sometimes even fail miserably. All im saying is stop thinking cuz "This happened, then its already obvious that this will" comments. Its not like the guy was making an unpredictable post. 25mil wiiu lifetime? Most likely not but last i checked we dont have a crstal ball. Just look at your own threads where you predicted wrong. PS3+3DS are prime examples of this. WiiU is practically a loss for the 8th in gaming but just because you have numbers that say wiiu will be 12mil-15mil lifetime doesn't mean its going to be 100% wat happens. Right???  Monthly trend /= an entire lifetime of trends for WiiU. I'm not going to stop making predictions because I've been wrong in the past, at the time, with the info I have I'll make the best prediction I can, and right now that shows WiiU around 15m. Add to that, given it's been over 18 months and Nintendo clearly don't see a turn around, it would take something very bizzare for WiiU to get to 25m. Saying it's possible? No, I don't think it's possible so I'm not going to pretend it is. Also, the jury is still out for the 3DS 70k thread. It averaged 25k in US during April but Europe has been shown to be far more below that than we expected.

Lets see... Yu thought it would be alot lower month of April, you practically could of swore it would of been 20%-30%+ down YoY and yu practically said it would be impossible to be flat (down by 5%-7%). As for 70k WW, i definitely do not think so at all. US was most likely higher during the first two weeks than the svg due to new SKU's for 2ds. Just cuz it was avg 26k a week doesn't mean that one week was under. Just like X1 montly avg in march was i think about 65k, but obviously Titanfall week it was way over 65k!

But after next month onwards nobody will know kinect sells unless M$ announce it in future.. Hopefully they will announce it... You know... So I'm not voting...