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The Wii U is failing because...

...it is a piece of trash. 60 21.90%
 
...Nintendo isn't doing anything. 149 54.38%
 
See results (secret vote for option 1). 63 22.99%
 
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oniyide said:
bigtakilla said:

Maybe. I personally haven't seen nearly the amount of speculative threads on here , or rumors while searching for E3 2014 regaurding Halo, but there could be fans of all 3 consoles eager for it's reveal. I'm not personally, but whatever. 


this place isnt really a good indicator as there arent even alot of MS fans here, hell IMHO any video game forum is a poor indicator. Just look at the sales for Halo games.

True, but if we look at just the sales of a game  equalling hype an even better selling series would be Mario Kart (more so than Halo), even New Super Mario Bros has sold astronomically (the Wii U version sold about 4 million on an install base of about 4 million, literally everyone had to have bought that game). Now, there is hype for MK8 and New Super Mario Bros had a great deal of it, but it's not even comparable to as much as for a Wii U Legend of Zelda. I'm talking fans from all sides of the community coming together and discussing one game. When that game is revealed there will not be a single person that isn't on the forums discussing that game.



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I bought the console in December 2012, and didn't really see the droughts coming. But that was before Rayman got delayed. Once it came out I had fun with it for months, so if it wasn't delayed I would've been happy with it during the first drought.

BUT, as we all know, it got delayed, and all I had to play on it by then was Lego City, another great game, but one game in six months is too little for me. The other few titles that was released around that time, like Monster Hunter and Most Wanted, didn't interest me.

E3 disappointed me a bit, 3D World wasn't what I was looking for, and after that, Mario Kart was delayed. Pikmin 3 turned out to be a fun little game while it lasted, but it was still not what I was looking for in a Nintendo console.

Along came Donkey Kong in February, the first title for Wii U I was completely satisfied with. Now there's been three months since that, and Mario Kart is around the corner. If Smash is finally released this fall, plus some good games like Hyrule Warriors (I hope it's good) and Bayonetta (will buy if the first one is ported), I will be further on the way to happiness.

Now I'm looking forward to E3 and I hope they show the new Zelda. The Wii U is about to see its better days.

But first comes Mario Kart. It seems that it's not perfect either (battle mode), but if the race track designs are great I suppose I can live with that.

All in all, I'm starting to get happy about how they're treating it, but it isn't before MK comes out.



Yep.

bigtakilla said:
AndrewWK said:
PigPen said:


Well last year they didn't have the games that we wanted.  You can't compare last year to this year.


And this year they have the games we want? You have some informations I don´t?

I honestly cannot think of a reveal more anticipated than the Legend Of Zelda U reveal? Every single fanboy of every single console will be waiting as the sony and xbox fans will wait and see if there is even one tiny thing wrong to post on here trashing it however they can, while Wii U fans are waiting to sing it's praise to the heavens. There is also that small amount of Nintendo fans that will not like the direction the series is going and fans of the other systems that will be truly impressed but those will be few and FAR inbetween but the impact of that single game is going to be massive.

Honestly is there any game at all that comes remotely close to getting all 3 system's fans hyped?

Maybe you are overestimating Zeldas relevance these days. I mean that is my favourite fanchise but if you take a look at the performance of the last two Zelda game, its not that impressive. I mean granted Skyword Sword was shit but A link between was a masterpiece but neither has sold Gangbusters.



I am moderately happy with the console and its games. I've had plenty to enjoy, with good 3rd party titles like COD filling the void between AAA 1st party games like SM3DW and Zelda WWHD.

That said, I am not completely satisfied with how Nintendo is handling the Wii U.

As a gamer, I want better content. Nintendo has several options. There could be some Gamecube virtual console game or a couple more HD remakes - Zelda only took 6 months and 4 people. It was probably the most profitable title Nintendo released in some time. Give me Mario Sunshine and F-Zero GX in HD and I'll be pretty pumped. N64 games and others should be on the VC too, though Gameboy Advance was a great step.

There should be more varied content from 3rd party publishers/partners/new studios going forward. Nintendo should buy or start up a couple studios to make games different than they usually make or bite the bullet and pay some 3rd parties for a couple key games. As long as a couple key non-Nintendo style games (like COD) are there I'm content. If they're not going to be there, Nintendo should take steps to add the content internally. We may not get FFXV, but how about Nintendo makes sure we get Last Story 2 from Mistwalker.

I'm not overly impressed with Nintendo's first party innovation. Particularly with the Gamepad, it's been an expensive afterthought. I love it for non-gaming functions, but in-game it's been next to useless or only slightly nice. 1.5 years in and we have yet to see something fun and innovative. They've also lacked innovation in mainline titles, Mario in particular. 3D World is outstanding in its polish and execution but it lacked the innovation of Galaxy. With Wii in the first year you had outstanding versions of classic games (Mario3D, Zelda, Metroid), quicker new titles like Paper Mario and WarioWare and totally new concepts like Wii Sports and Wii Play. I'm let down a bit by Nintendo's content innovation so far.

There has been a lack of exciting new things on the OS or in general with the Wii U experience do far. With Wii you had VC to begin with, but they would also add new systems and then came WiiWare to mix things up. I'd like to see Nintendo add something to my console that I've been enjoying since launch, such as adding trophies at last or the ability to customize my menus. I do like how the music changes on eshop, however, and they've done a great job of speeding the system up.

From a non-gamer perspective looking at it as a fan or analyst hoping for them to do their best, I'm not happy with what they are doing. You can never concede defeat this early and there are many things you can do. MS reacted great on the fly last gen adding avatars and changing the OS, releasing Kinnect, etc. Right now Nintendo should be aggressively re-inventing Wii U. Either with a couple really innovative casual titles that will grab attention or - if they can't think of anything along that line - by re-focusing on core games and updating the system accordingly. Release a re-design with a smaller, more ergonomic classic styled Gamepad controller and a new color theme/style. Develop, sign, contract some classic core titles. Mighty No. 9 should be a Wii U/3DS exclusive. There should be an innovative new shooter and some RPG content. And Zelda should be classic and mature. The type of things that get the older traditional Nintendo lovers to buy the console and its content.

And yes, they need much better marketing.



bigtakilla said:
oniyide said:
bigtakilla said:

Maybe. I personally haven't seen nearly the amount of speculative threads on here , or rumors while searching for E3 2014 regaurding Halo, but there could be fans of all 3 consoles eager for it's reveal. I'm not personally, but whatever. 


this place isnt really a good indicator as there arent even alot of MS fans here, hell IMHO any video game forum is a poor indicator. Just look at the sales for Halo games.

True, but if we look at just the sales of a game  equalling hype an even better selling series would be Mario Kart (more so than Halo), even New Super Mario Bros has sold astronomically (the Wii U version sold about 4 million on an install base of about 4 million, literally everyone had to have bought that game). Now, there is hype for MK8 and New Super Mario Bros had a great deal of it, but it's not even comparable to as much as for a Wii U Legend of Zelda. I'm talking fans from all sides of the community coming together and discussing one game. When that game is revealed there will not be a single person that isn't on the forums discussing that game.

i could say the same for Halo. and the Mario games Kart or 2d arent really good comparisons. 1 they have a MUCH largher appeal than Zelda 2 they dont rely on preorder numbers and 3 the ones that did do big numbers were games that released on much popular systems. IMHO i dont think the new Zelda will sell more than the new Halo so the hype will be irrelevant in the end.



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AndrewWK said:
AZWification said:

 So far, Nintendo has a pretty OK-ish job with the WiiU! I would be slightly happier if they would announce a new Star Fox game!


Yeah Star Fox is probably very low on the priority list

It's not the only franchise that is very low on the priority list!



                
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oniyide said:
bigtakilla said:
oniyide said:
bigtakilla said:

Maybe. I personally haven't seen nearly the amount of speculative threads on here , or rumors while searching for E3 2014 regaurding Halo, but there could be fans of all 3 consoles eager for it's reveal. I'm not personally, but whatever. 


this place isnt really a good indicator as there arent even alot of MS fans here, hell IMHO any video game forum is a poor indicator. Just look at the sales for Halo games.

True, but if we look at just the sales of a game  equalling hype an even better selling series would be Mario Kart (more so than Halo), even New Super Mario Bros has sold astronomically (the Wii U version sold about 4 million on an install base of about 4 million, literally everyone had to have bought that game). Now, there is hype for MK8 and New Super Mario Bros had a great deal of it, but it's not even comparable to as much as for a Wii U Legend of Zelda. I'm talking fans from all sides of the community coming together and discussing one game. When that game is revealed there will not be a single person that isn't on the forums discussing that game.

i could say the same for Halo. and the Mario games Kart or 2d arent really good comparisons. 1 they have a MUCH largher appeal than Zelda 2 they dont rely on preorder numbers and 3 the ones that did do big numbers were games that released on much popular systems. IMHO i dont think the new Zelda will sell more than the new Halo so the hype will be irrelevant in the end.

I agree completely, Zelda U will NOT sell more than Halo whatever they're on (5 I think). I do however think Mario Kart will outsell Halo, and have had a great deal of preorders (it being on Amazon for a while now as the #1 Worldwide bestseller) but that at the end of the day depends on systems in peoples house. I was generally speaking about the hype circling the game. At the end of the day what will make it a success or not is if the hype moves consoles. 

It also will sell great numbers, just not Halo numbers.



bigtakilla said:
oniyide said:
bigtakilla said:
oniyide said:
bigtakilla said:

Maybe. I personally haven't seen nearly the amount of speculative threads on here , or rumors while searching for E3 2014 regaurding Halo, but there could be fans of all 3 consoles eager for it's reveal. I'm not personally, but whatever. 


this place isnt really a good indicator as there arent even alot of MS fans here, hell IMHO any video game forum is a poor indicator. Just look at the sales for Halo games.

True, but if we look at just the sales of a game  equalling hype an even better selling series would be Mario Kart (more so than Halo), even New Super Mario Bros has sold astronomically (the Wii U version sold about 4 million on an install base of about 4 million, literally everyone had to have bought that game). Now, there is hype for MK8 and New Super Mario Bros had a great deal of it, but it's not even comparable to as much as for a Wii U Legend of Zelda. I'm talking fans from all sides of the community coming together and discussing one game. When that game is revealed there will not be a single person that isn't on the forums discussing that game.

i could say the same for Halo. and the Mario games Kart or 2d arent really good comparisons. 1 they have a MUCH largher appeal than Zelda 2 they dont rely on preorder numbers and 3 the ones that did do big numbers were games that released on much popular systems. IMHO i dont think the new Zelda will sell more than the new Halo so the hype will be irrelevant in the end.

I agree completely, Zelda U will NOT sell more than Halo whatever they're on (5 I think). I do however think Mario Kart will outsell Halo, and have had a great deal of preorders (it being on Amazon for a while now as the #1 Worldwide bestseller) but that at the end of the day depends on systems in peoples house. I was generally speaking about the hype circling the game. At the end of the day what will make it a success or not is if the hype moves consoles. 

It also will sell great numbers, just not Halo numbers.

I dont think Mario kart will do better than Halo 5. IMHO the systems that it will sell will NOT allow it for those kinds of numbers. Xbone is doing way better in comparison i dont think they will have an issue selling alot. No i dont think MK will move that much systems to really change its faith. I also dont think its preorders are that fantastic. Destiny has higher and that doesnt come out for a while. Ps4 AND xone watchdogs have higher.



oniyide said:
bigtakilla said:
oniyide said:
bigtakilla said:
oniyide said:
bigtakilla said:

Maybe. I personally haven't seen nearly the amount of speculative threads on here , or rumors while searching for E3 2014 regaurding Halo, but there could be fans of all 3 consoles eager for it's reveal. I'm not personally, but whatever. 


this place isnt really a good indicator as there arent even alot of MS fans here, hell IMHO any video game forum is a poor indicator. Just look at the sales for Halo games.

True, but if we look at just the sales of a game  equalling hype an even better selling series would be Mario Kart (more so than Halo), even New Super Mario Bros has sold astronomically (the Wii U version sold about 4 million on an install base of about 4 million, literally everyone had to have bought that game). Now, there is hype for MK8 and New Super Mario Bros had a great deal of it, but it's not even comparable to as much as for a Wii U Legend of Zelda. I'm talking fans from all sides of the community coming together and discussing one game. When that game is revealed there will not be a single person that isn't on the forums discussing that game.

i could say the same for Halo. and the Mario games Kart or 2d arent really good comparisons. 1 they have a MUCH largher appeal than Zelda 2 they dont rely on preorder numbers and 3 the ones that did do big numbers were games that released on much popular systems. IMHO i dont think the new Zelda will sell more than the new Halo so the hype will be irrelevant in the end.

I agree completely, Zelda U will NOT sell more than Halo whatever they're on (5 I think). I do however think Mario Kart will outsell Halo, and have had a great deal of preorders (it being on Amazon for a while now as the #1 Worldwide bestseller) but that at the end of the day depends on systems in peoples house. I was generally speaking about the hype circling the game. At the end of the day what will make it a success or not is if the hype moves consoles. 

It also will sell great numbers, just not Halo numbers.

I dont think Mario kart will do better than Halo 5. IMHO the systems that it will sell will NOT allow it for those kinds of numbers. Xbone is doing way better in comparison i dont think they will have an issue selling alot. No i dont think MK will move that much systems to really change its faith. I also dont think its preorders are that fantastic. Destiny has higher and that doesnt come out for a while. Ps4 AND xone watchdogs have higher.


I did not know that. But preorders compared to actual sales you never know. Not to mention the amount of time it will be on the market. By the time Halo is out Mario Kart 8 will have already been out for a while, and Nintendo games have legs. Mario Kart isn't the type of game that usually gets preordered, it's the kind of game that gets bought over the holidays or for birthdays. And judging by the amount of preorders it is going to be pretty big. I can agree though, the amount of consoles that will be in peoples homes at that time are going to be in favor of XBox, so you may very well be right.