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spemanig said:

Is the steam controller natively compatable with the Windows run steam games? Why didn't they just have the Steam OS use Windows if they were gonna include it in some steamboxes anyway? I'm looking up steam big picture mode now. If it doesn't mess with the ease of use and it's not insanely more expensive, I'll probably go with that.

There's probably gonna be drivers for it on the windows version so you may not have to worry about controller compatibility but don't quote me on this. As for steam machines not bundled with windows, that's due to Gabe Newell's dumb hate for windows 8.

There's one more thing you have to do such as installing windows on your steam machine ...



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shikamaru317 said:
spemanig said:
shikamaru317 said:

Yes. Or pay extra to Windows on it and use Steam Big Picture mode, which is virtually the same as Steam OS. 


Is the steam controller natively compatable with the Windows run steam games? Why didn't they just have the Steam OS use Windows if they were gonna include it in some steamboxes anyway? I'm looking up steam big picture mode now. If it doesn't mess with the ease of use and it's not insanely more expensive, I'll probably go with that.

That's a good question. Most PC games have plug and play support for 360 controllers now, and I believe PS4 and soon Xbox One controllers as well, but I'm not sure about the Steam Controller. But even if it's not supported it should be pretty easy to remap controls to the Steam Controller I'd think. 

As for why Steam didn't go with Windows for SteamOS, it's partially because Gabe Newell seems to hate Microsoft these days, and partially because they would have had to pay Microsoft for those Windows licenses themselves or else sell the Steam Machines at a higher price to consumers. Gabe Newell's stubborness may have killed Steam Machines, we'll have to wait and see. Maybe he'll be able to convince more developers to make games for Linux. 


Well that's lame, but I understand if it would have made them that much more expensive. That's a good point about how waiting a year will reveal more powerful models for the same price. I'll definitely do that. Do you think they'll ever make steam games with Wii U pro controller support? While I wouldn't really be too bothered buying an XBO or PS4 controller for the box, as I like both of them, I prefer the pro controller more. Then I wouldn't really need to worry about compatablility. I assume that that wouldn't be to tough to program.



fatslob-:O said:
spemanig said:

Is the steam controller natively compatable with the Windows run steam games? Why didn't they just have the Steam OS use Windows if they were gonna include it in some steamboxes anyway? I'm looking up steam big picture mode now. If it doesn't mess with the ease of use and it's not insanely more expensive, I'll probably go with that.

There's probably gonna be drivers for it on the windows version so you may not have to worry about controller compatibility but don't quote me on this. As for steam machines not bundled with windows, that's due to Gabe Newell's dumb hate for windows 8.

There's one more thing you have to do such as installing windows on your steam machine ...


I thought he said that Windows was already installed on those particular Steam Machines?



spemanig said:

I thought he said that Windows was already installed on those particular Steam Machines?

Read shikamaru's statement again ... 

"As for why Steam didn't go with Windows for SteamOS, it's partially because Gabe Newell seems to hate Microsoft these days, and partially because they would have had to pay Microsoft for those Windows licenses themselves or else sell the Steam Machines at a higher price to consumers. Gabe Newell's stubborness may have killed Steam Machines, we'll have to wait and see. Maybe he'll be able to convince more developers to make games for Linux. "

Unfortunately you can't just keep running away from the quirks of PC gaming. Either you do it or you don't ... 



shikamaru317 said:
spemanig said:

I thought he said that Windows was already installed on those particular Steam Machines?

I'm not sure if it will be or not. It's possible if not likely that some of the Steam Machine manufacturers will offer a dual boot Windows 8/Steam OS option for their Steam Machines.

So why can't he just buy a pre-built PC and install steam on it ? Some of the pre-built PC's have some decent performance per price ... 



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shikamaru317 said:

I think some modders have already made a driver to get the Wii U Pro controller working on PC, but I don't think it would have plug and play support with PC games, you'd have to map the commands to the controller yourself for each game, but that wouldn't really be that hard.

He said he didn't want to tinker with shit so that's not an option. =/



shikamaru317 said:

I've looked into that option myself since I want to get a PC for my living room. The problem is that most gaming PC's are vertical and large, not really fit for the living room. Steam Machines are horizontal and use those mods that allow you to turn your graphics card sideways, parallel with the motherboard,  which makes the cases thinner, ideal for entertainment center shelves. In my searching I never found any prebuilt, reasonably priced, horizontal gaming PC's, before Steam OS was announced. I may get a Steam Machine myself and go dual boot Windows 8/Steam OS. But first I want to see some reviews for each manufactuter's Steam Machine.

Yes PC's may be large but I see that as an advantage since it gives it alot of modularity. 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229554

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227546

This PC that I've found is quite decent at around $850. A gtx 750 ti or R9 270X and a fx 8320 is enough. Sure the price maybe excessive but since OP doesn't want to mess with shit a pre-bulit such as those is enough.



spemanig said:

I own a Wii U and don't plan on buying another next gen console unless it has free online. Since that's not gonna happen, I was actually thinking about investing in a Steam Machine. Is it a good idea? I really don't care to learn the ins and outs of P.C. gaming, but I'm afraid it won't really be supported. I was planning on getting one of the Alienware boxes. Any advice? Is it a good alternative for someone who just cares about Nintendo like me?

EDIT: I'm not building or buying a P.C. I'm not getting a PS4 or XBO. Those aren't options. Please stop trying to convince me. I just want to know "Steam Machine good or bad." I don't care what you think is better, because I clearly don't think they're better.


Hard to say we don;t know enough about them, Steam is awesome, Steam machines? Don't think they will amount to much.



fatslob-:O said:
shikamaru317 said:

I think some modders have already made a driver to get the Wii U Pro controller working on PC, but I don't think it would have plug and play support with PC games, you'd have to map the commands to the controller yourself for each game, but that wouldn't really be that hard.

He said he didn't want to tinker with shit so that's not an option. =/


That's not the kind of tinkering I'm talking about. As long as I wouldn't have to like install any extra software to get it to recognise the Pro Controller in the first place, I have no issue spending 1 minute mapping the controllers. Or I can just buy an XBO controller.



spemanig said:

That's not the kind of tinkering I'm talking about. As long as I wouldn't have to like install any extra software to get it to recognise the Pro Controller in the first place, I have no issue spending 1 minute mapping the controllers. Or I can just buy an XBO controller.

You WILL have to install the drivers for it to work and it's likely an unsigned one at that so it maybe dangerous. PC gaming is harder than you think it is.