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Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Final Fantasy and it has turned into utter shit, specially in the FFXIII series... I would have never thought that the FF name would mean buy with caution but it is what it is. Heres hoping that SE has smartened up with FFXV but I will buy it with caution


Don´t know if you´ve already read this, but you might be interested:

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/where-final-fantasy-went-wrong-and-how-square-enix-is-righting-it

It´s a long read, but you may like it.



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Augen said:
Grandia - My all time favorite series is just non existent sadly. I have not even heard rumors Square Enix is remotely interested in the series. What I would give to see it resurrected.

Breath of Fire - Now this is mainly the first 4, with 4 being my favorite. Capcom are doing some browser game which is either as bad or worse than just ignoring it.

Suikoden - As far as I know Konami has no plans for the series so much like Grandia it is just sitting there.

Tales of - This series has moved up over the years because Namco has bothered to keep it alive. Honestly it is my favorite active JRPG series at this point

Shin Megami Tensei - SMT IV finally released last year on 3DS and Persona 5 is announced for PS3 so the series is on the rebound after bit of a lull with mainly re-releases.

Final Fantasy - While X killed the series in many respects for me I find the XIII games to be fine if I do not expect a return to SNES/PS1 glory days.

Overall it is hard to ignore now that SNES/PS1/PS2 era many of us JRPG fans got spoiled. The genre has struggled to keep up with increasingly development costs leading many to go to handheld or even mobile or browser route. It is a shame because when you see a Tales of Xillia or Ni No Kuni last year it really excites the possibilities only to know odds are will see less and less major console release in the coming generation.

Would you say Tales and Persona are currently the rare exception?...I mean, where they´re gaining popularity in the West and not in decline.



Phantasy Star - Old school turn based style ones I enjoyed are Dead
Valkyria Chronicles - Dead
FF - Haven't appealed to me since PS2. As a huge fan of PS1 FFs I really wish I could get some Type 0.
Parasite Eve - Dead
Vagrant Story - Dead
Breath of Fire - Dead
Dark Cloud - Dead
Golden Sun - Dead
Pokemon - Thank goodness not all of my favorite RPG series died

This thread makes me sad :-



If this thread has taught us anything it's that everything is dead :(



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Why can't I hold all these no gaemz?

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Final Fantasy - Apparently trying to gross away their last remaining fan with FFXV
Dragon Quest - Working only half an hour a week on their games... but some day we may get a game
Resonance of Fate - lol not gonna happen
Valkyrie Profile - another lol
Baten Kaitos - and yet another lol

Developers aren't interested anymore in making good JRPGs.



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My favorites are Suikoden, Grandia, (Xeno)gears and Chrono series.

Sadly most of them, if not all are falling into obscurity.

Suikoden

The Suikoden series got its team disbanded and the only Suikodens that came out since were outsourced and didnt share the same overworld the series is known for. Suikoden V was praised by the press, but it didnt stop Konami from disbanding the team and beeing unable to bring it back up to the new generation of hardware.
I know that Konami tried to rehire the series creator since but he refused to return to Konami.

Status: Dormant.
Possibility of return: Unlikely

Grandia

Grandia has a troubled history. While the games have been consistently good, despite a dungeon crawler entry that was unwanted but was decent and a Grandia 3 that was a good game but couldnt compete with its predecessors.
The main problem is the founders of Game Arts and creators of the series have died or left the company.
The only sign of life from the Grandia series was the PSN re-release of the first game. But, the developer still exists, even if bought by Gungho, and i'm sure there are still Grandia fans inside the company.

Status: semi-dormant
Possibility of a return: Possible, though most likely on portale formats.

Xeno(gears)

This one is a rollercoaster. Xenogears itself was supposed to be 7 episodes with Xenogears beeing episode 5. But, square didnt believe the series and the series creator left square and created monolith soft.
The series was then continue on Xenosaga, with the handle of Namco. The new series managed to retain the great storytelling but lacked on the gameplay department until episode 3. With low series sales already dooming the theird game to be unable to resurrect the series.
With Namco no longer supporting it, Nintendo came into the fray and monolith tried to once more reboot the franchise, this time into Xenoblade, and achieving great sucess. To the point where they were aquired by Nintendo and are now producing the latest entry into the series: X.

For series information i believe that despite what would official be said, Xenosaga episodes 1-3 are indeed the plots intended for Xenogears 1 to 3. With Xenogears 4 beeing the story reference in Xenogears with the previous generation. Beeing that Xenogears episode 7 is the only storyline not referenced in any game as of now.
From the ending of Xenosaga episode 3 you saw that there was definitly and interest in exploring the origins of the world portraid in Xenosaga and that is where Xenoblade comes in, beeing the unexpected entry in the series, lets call it Xenogears zero.

Status: Alive
Possibility of return: It already is, and under Nintendo's tutelage, the series is sure to keep on striving, even if it might further stray from the initial designs on the Xenogears saga.

Chrono series

Where did we go wrong with the Chrono series? The first a masterpiece, the second also a masterpiece but a fanbase unwilling to forgive that the second didnt soar the same heights than the first. This i think is what led to the dormant state of the series. Not only that but the creators of this game are great names in the industry. Those would probably be impossible to gather up again for a possible sequal.

Status: Very dormant if not dead.
Possibility of return: Lets be honest, its possible. But it requires square to give the get-go and invest on a different team than the original one. A revival is unlikely, but i wouldnt say impossible. The game has a great cult following, but if FFVII hasnt had its remake and its so heavily requested, what chance does the Chrono series have?



Wild ARMs is my favourite JRPG series ever.  No other series was consistently good across as many games as that (Final Fantasy was great for a streak but then tailed off for quite some time before picking up again).

The saddest thing about the current state of JRPG's is that there's very little "mid tier" stuff left.  No Breath of Fire; no Suikoden; no Wild ARMs... things like Tales or Ni no Kuni survive but they're few and far between.

As a result, I've been turning to more niche JRPG's for my fix.  And they're much better than I was ever expecting them to be, in all honesty.

My favourite JRPG series in order:

1. Wild ARMs
2. Final Fantasy
3. Tales of
4. Atelier
5. Breath of Fire
6. Ys

I've also enjoyed games in series like Grandia; Star Ocean; Arc the Lad; Legend of Heroes & Hyperdimension Neptunia series but haven't played enough to qualify them making the list yet.



Nem said:

My favorites are Suikoden, Grandia, (Xeno)gears and Chrono series.

Sadly most of them, if not all are falling into obscurity.

Suikoden

The Suikoden series got its team disbanded and the only Suikodens that came out since were outsourced and didnt share the same overworld the series is known for. Suikoden V was praised by the press, but it didnt stop Konami from disbanding the team and beeing unable to bring it back up to the new generation of hardware.
I know that Konami tried to rehire the series creator since but he refused to return to Konami.

Status: Dormant.
Possibility of return: Unlikely

Grandia

Grandia has a troubled history. While the games have been consistently good, despite a dungeon crawler entry that was unwanted but was decent and a Grandia 3 that was a good game but couldnt compete with its predecessors.
The main problem is the founders of Game Arts and creators of the series have died or left the company.
The only sign of life from the Grandia series was the PSN re-release of the first game. But, the developer still exists, even if bought by Gungho, and i'm sure there are still Grandia fans inside the company.

Status: semi-dormant
Possibility of a return: Possible, though most likely on portale formats.

Xeno(gears)

This one is a rollercoaster. Xenogears itself was supposed to be 7 episodes with Xenogears beeing episode 5. But, square didnt believe the series and the series creator left square and created monolith soft.
The series was then continue on Xenosaga, with the handle of Namco. The new series managed to retain the great storytelling but lacked on the gameplay department until episode 3. With low series sales already dooming the theird game to be unable to resurrect the series.
With Namco no longer supporting it, Nintendo came into the fray and monolith tried to once more reboot the franchise, this time into Xenoblade, and achieving great sucess. To the point where they were aquired by Nintendo and are now producing the latest entry into the series: X.

For series information i believe that despite what would official be said, Xenosaga episodes 1-3 are indeed the plots intended for Xenogears 1 to 3. With Xenogears 4 beeing the story reference in Xenogears with the previous generation. Beeing that Xenogears episode 7 is the only storyline not referenced in any game as of now.
From the ending of Xenosaga episode 3 you saw that there was definitly and interest in exploring the origins of the world portraid in Xenosaga and that is where Xenoblade comes in, beeing the unexpected entry in the series, lets call it Xenogears zero.

Status: Alive
Possibility of return: It already is, and under Nintendo's tutelage, the series is sure to keep on striving, even if it might further stray from the initial designs on the Xenogears saga.

Chrono series

Where did we go wrong with the Chrono series? The first a masterpiece, the second also a masterpiece but a fanbase unwilling to forgive that the second didnt soar the same heights than the first. This i think is what led to the dormant state of the series. Not only that but the creators of this game are great names in the industry. Those would probably be impossible to gather up again for a possible sequal.

Status: Very dormant if not dead.
Possibility of return: Lets be honest, its possible. But it requires square to give the get-go and invest on a different team than the original one. A revival is unlikely, but i wouldnt say impossible. The game has a great cult following, but if FFVII hasnt had its remake and its so heavily requested, what chance does the Chrono series have?

Nice summary there!

Is Game Arts doing anything at the moment?

Is Xenoblade, and the upcoming X, connected in some level to Xenogears, story wise?



Chrono Cross is my favorite JRPG, I was absolutely immersed into the setting and atmosphere of the game. I got into JRPGs with FF and KH, but to be honest, I'm at a state where I don't like those series as much as I used to. Whether it be the fanbase or the quality of the games, I don't like what Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts have become, although I look forward to FF15 and KH3.

However, I'm very much enjoying the Fire Emblem and SMT series. They're so much depth to those games. Other games I really want to get into are the Tales of series, Dragon Quest, and Suikoden. With the recent announcement of Suikoden 2 possibly coming to PSN, I can't wait to play it.



JGarret said:

Is Game Arts doing anything at the moment?


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