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TheDrill said:
Aura7541 said:
TheDrill said:

TLOU remastered has only a few preorderes, it won't seel much and it won't push PS4 sales.

The rest of those games are new and uknown and unhyped, won't sell much either, except Destiny, but destiny comes for X1 as well, and X1 is the platform of choice for Halo fans, so I won't be surprised if it will sell more than on PS4 in the US, don't forget that TitanFall sold more than any game on PS4, and total Software Sales are higher for X1 than PS4 in the US.

Prove it. That sounds more like what you want to happen rather than what is actually happening and posting VGC preorder numbers does not prove your claim.

Sony has exclusive advertising rights to Destiny and the white PS4 bundle had a lot of preorders. In fact, it still tracks ahead of some of the X1 SKUs on retailers like Amazon and Gamestop. The rest of the games help fill the needs of gamers who aren't into racers and shooters. Natural Doctrine appeals to the JRPG gamers while Guilty Gears appeals to the fans of the fighter genre. The X1 doesn't have games that cover these genres, these markets are PS4's for the taking.


http://www.vgchartz.com/preorders/41833/USA/

It only added ~8k a week, that is really pitiful for an AAA game.

Most people that wanted to play it already got it on PS3.

TLOU remastered won't sell 1 million lifetime in the US.

So your saying that the remake on ps4 was played out and nobody wants it anymore. Considering that a lot of ps4 owners are 360 owners, but the remake coming to the x1 is not played out, considering that it alreade had a remake on the 360, and all x1 owners are 360 owners who probably already played it.  Please explain. Gime some of that super drill logic.



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WebMasterFlex said:

"xbone will catch up soon"



Excellent :D

OMFG, I see the xbone future:

 

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DD_Bwest said:
TheDrill said:
DD_Bwest said:


how come you dont take the time to back up your argument.  you have said multiple times the xb1 met or exceeded the ps4.  can you kindly show proof?

 

failure to do so will automatically result in you admitting you are wrong


you can check the X1 sales in the US in the last 4 weeks on the front page yourself.


congradualations you just lost.    weve been over this a hundred times from people on many different sides.  those numbers are ALWAYS crap.   they always get adjusted.   even the mods will tell you NPD is right,    it is the tracking service used by the 3 companies, the same ones that for years told the story of the 360 winning,    there isnt some big conspiracy.

 

you continue to ignore this,  and until you do, you sit with the same people who think aliens built the pyramids

Now that's just ridiculous. But I did hear it on good authority (History Channel) that aliens assassinated Kennedy.



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Here are the facts:

X1 is selling close to same as PS4 considering:
-Bad reputation from E3
-Not many games
-Bad reputation overall

Now imagine as they recuperate their reputation and halo comes out?
It will make wonders!



TheDrill said:
Here are the facts:

X1 is selling close to same as PS4 considering:
-Bad reputation from E3
-Not many games
-Bad reputation overall

Now imagine as they recuperate their reputation and halo comes out?
It will make wonders!


NPD shows that XB1 sales were only ~73% of what PS4 sold.  That is  ~26% difference.  You think over 25% difference is close?  No wonder you think your prediction is still close...



TheDrill said:
Here are the facts:

X1 is selling close to same as PS4 considering:
-Bad reputation from E3
-Not many games
-Bad reputation overall

Now imagine as they recuperate their reputation and halo comes out?
It will make wonders!

Bolded is not fact. X1 got outsold by 38% in June despite removing the Kinect that month. The gap in the USA is ~700k, which grew from the time you posted your thread.

Halo will do the same as removing the Kinect: providing only a temporary sales boost for a week or two before falling back to baseline. If you want to boost the baseline, you need more than Halo. You need an army of exclusives like for example, Sony's team of 1st party studios.



Which is more accurate.. A retailer saying how much they sold (for which he have 100% confidence because he owns the whole process and data) or VGC that guesstimate with accuracy of 90% on a good month or 50% sometimes???
Amazon certainly can't give full picture since it isn't the only retailer, but when the difference in positions is great them we have certainty (only talking about month rank).
And actually if TLOUR sells "globally in USA" 1M that would be fantastic.



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TheDrill said:
Here are the facts:

X1 is selling close to same as PS4 considering:
-Bad reputation from E3
-Not many games
-Bad reputation overall

Now imagine as they recuperate their reputation and halo comes out?
It will make wonders!

Why are you lying??

In your first post made on May 14 you said that "The current difference between PS4 and X1 in the US is  322004 units." I am looking at the numbers on this site and that difference was back in March 29. So 6 weeks before you made you thread. Did you just lie about the numbers on May 14 to try to be right?

Then again you posted this on the same May 14

Current week US numbers:

 

XOne 50,092 (-4%) 2,871,919
PS4 48,257 (-6%) 3,193,923

Last week US numbers:

 

XOne 52,355 (-6%) 2,821,827
PS4 51,528 (-10%) 3,145,666

Since you posted those numbers on May 14 it is safe to assume that data for May 17 was not out yet. And here the data for May 17 on the US

PS4 44,258 (-6%) 3,296,027




XOne 24,299 (-8%) 2,812,069

Which bring me again to ask, why are you lying about the numbers? I am looking for those 52,355 XOne vs 51,528 PS4 and 50,092 XOne vs 48,257 PS4 and I cannot find them. And then you keep avancing numbers as fact to support your ideas but those numbers doesn't exist. So why are you lying? Now you don't sound credible at all. You invente numbers (I am assuming you did cause I can't find them) to try to prove a point. Which suprise me a lot since you like using terms like "fact" "scientific this", "scientific that".  So please show me that you are credible by telling the truth. Cause I can't seem to find your fact and your numbers here?

Edit: I am well aware that the numbers on vgchartz changes after NPD and get adjusted after companies give their numbers too, but I wanted to make sure sure that Drill was also aware of it. He already replied to me and I was able to confirm that he does know the number can change.From his response I can tell he is aware of it but is just choosing to ignore them when they don't fit his taste.