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Hilarious, only took 6 months. Companies with money do have this advantage, like Nintendo with 3DS.



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Sal.Paradise said:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=178448&page=1

Will there be a "no-Kinect" Xbox One SKU?

DJEVOLVE said:
Not going to happen. They will cut the price of xbox with kinect before getting rid of it.
NobleTeam360 said:
No.
hugebong said:

nope

Yes, in 2014

52 37.68%
 
Yes, in 2015 23 16.67%
 
Yes, but not for a long-ass time 19 13.77%
 
No 43 31.16%
 
Total:

137

Looks like most of vgc got this one...right! That was only a few months ago though, so you guys don't deserve too much credit. I mean, even Polygon had figured it out by then!

 

edit:  earlier thread, vgc not so right here!

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=170774

What happens when MS inevitably drops Kinect?

KHlover said:
The same what will happen once Nintendo drops the WiiU gamepad.

Nothing, because it won't happen at all.
ArnoldRimmer said:
I just don't believe that they will drop Kinect.

Kinect is the one area where Xbone offers something relatively new and different.
Drop Kinect, and what's left behind is pretty much just a weaker PS4. In such a scenario, why should people go for the second best choice, unless it's at least significantly cheaper? And just trying to be cheapest is not the best business model. Much better to offer something that the competition doesn't.
Rogerioandrade said:
They won´t do it. If they drop kinect anyday, they´ll be droping the console market for sure.
tiffac said:
MS will not drop Kinect, the same reason they will not get out of the Japanese market.

They built the X1 strategy around Kinect and removing it will just show they have no faith in their own product and that is a PR disaster waiting to happen.

So its unlikely KInect will be dropped. They will probably do a price drop and just take the loses, if they fall way behind in the sales game and that's a big IF and depends what way behind is to them.
selnor1983 said:
They cant drop Kinect without bringing out a new Xbox Mister OP.

There are 5 Co processors built onto the GPU specifically for Kinect. What do suggest? To please 0.001% of people on the internet they redesign the whole Xbox One now?

fireburn95 said:
They aren't gonna drop kinect, kinect function is pretty much included in all games, and some may require it for stupid voice commands, plus how expensive can kinect be to make, current gen kinect is being sold at £10 brand new at my local GAME store
JayWood2010 said:

Honestly i dont expect them to drop Kinect as it is a selling point for XBO, not a liability.  Plus XBO is selling for a profit. It isn't "The all in one, Xbox One" without Kinect. Regardless of what the numbers say and who sold the most, XBO will likely be making more money than PS4 unless the attatch rate is super high for PS4.

nsignific said:
They won't drop the Kinect. It makes no sense to say that they will.
If they lag behind with sales - they will drop price, of course. But they will never drop Kinect.

who is this person??

Sal.Paradise said:

The price goes down and their sales increase. By then I think everyone except the MS diehards will have forgotten the Kinect-being-core-to-the-experience marketing spiel, and I'm sure those diehards will be more pleased with the sales increase than the squandering of the infinitepossibilities of mandatory kinect integration, so I doubt many will care. 

And who is this gorgeous person??

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=178605&page=

Polygon: Microsoft needs to admit the Xbox One Kinect is a peripheral, not a pack-in

selnor1983 said:
People need to admit that Kinect is a pack in, not a peripheral. This is not Playstation.

oops

Oh golly gee! This is funny and deserves to be read

     It does prove some people will honestly defend anything one compay does.



Well, looks like I know which system I am going to get this holiday season........unless Sony announces Crash Bandicoot or Jak for the PS4, but that will probably not happen!



                
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So it begins. Bound to happen because Xb one is literally failing in most of the markets in which it is selling, and at a more expensive price point and almost a year late to market it would do even worse in the September launch markets.

However, for a fatter box with weaker hardware under the hood is an equal price really going to cut it?



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And their backtracking continues. Smart move.



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gergroy said:

yeah... so exactly what I just said...


So you agree with me. Early adapters didn't get shafted because they got BC and a price cut didn't occur till a year after launch....



I'm also surprised they did this pretty quickly. I expected them to do this on the next year. Makes me think they are willing to sacrifice the Kinect for the console's wellbeing, even if it was built to function around the Xbox One. Will it be successful? Definitely. But there's still a lot of time until June. Anything can happen.



Max King of the Wild said:
gergroy said:

yeah... so exactly what I just said...


So you agree with me. Early adapters didn't get shafted because they got BC and a price cut didn't occur till a year after launch....

uh, no, that 60 gig model that people paid 600 dollars for dropped price to 500 bucks in april...  That is what you call a price drop and a shaft to the people that paid $100 more just 6 months earlier.  

Also, I worked at Best Buy at the time, those 60 gigs didn't go anywhere even at that price.  we still had them around until the 40 gigs were released and they dropped to 400.  Then we were finally able to clear them out.  

edit: plus you coul still get a BC unit up until the slim came out.  The 80 gigs didn't go anywhere until then.  Those metal gear solid 4 bundles that came out right before the slim all had BC.



gergroy said:
Max King of the Wild said:
gergroy said:

yeah... so exactly what I just said...


So you agree with me. Early adapters didn't get shafted because they got BC and a price cut didn't occur till a year after launch....

uh, no, that 60 gig model that people paid 600 dollars for dropped price to 500 bucks in april...  That is what you call a price drop and a shaft to the people that paid $100 more just 6 months earlier.  

Also, I worked at Best Buy at the time, those 60 gigs didn't go anywhere even at that price.  we still had them around until the 40 gigs were released and they dropped to 400.  Then we were finally able to clear them out.  

No because there was still 2 models. The people who wanted to pay 500 before the 60gb came out could have bought the 20gb and the people interested in spending 600 still only got another 20gb on top of the original 60gb. If early adopters got shafted then so did the people who bought the 80gb, 120gb, 160gb, 250gb and 320gb because there is a 500gb out for the same price



Dallinor said:
Azerth said:
Arkaign said:
Games will be the deciding factor, exclusive ones. As yet, that hasn't been enough to get any victories for MS even with net pricing that is lower than PS4 (eg : XB1 @ $449 w/Titanfall = $390 console, free kinect, $60 game).

E3 should be interesting. I have a sneaking feeling that Microsoft doesn't have any surprises ready for 2014, but 2015 could start heating up. Whereas Sony played it pretty tight last E3.


well the rest of 2014 for ms is most likly sunset, qb, halo2a, and horizion 2  and chances are well get the games coming next year at this e3

I keep seeing posters peg QB for 2014.

This is from the studio that took 5 years to make Max Payne and a further 5 years to make Alan Wake. Unless it's officially confirmed with a set launch date for 2014, my bet is on 2015.

the insider that has been right about lot of things said its a 2014 release  which is why i think we all belive its coming this year