Not to derail the thread here but I think part of the problem may have been Sony stretching themselves across as many events as they did. They went all out on their reveal event which I think hurt them at E3 because what would have been big news turned into "oh... we already knew that". Then at Gamescom they crammed a bunch of smaller titles, talked about Japanese third-party games at the SCEJA conference and TGS, then announced Uncharted 4 at the launch event.

Imagine if, say, Infamous and Killzone hadn't been announced yet. If they waited to reveal Destiny at E3 and didn't put on a big display for Watch Dogs until then. What if, in closing, they played the trailer for Uncharted 4? Pretty sure opinions of Sony's E3 would have been much different. By comparison, Microsoft pretty much lobbed everything they had at us in one event. They made a closed event announcement of Fable Legends and Fighter Within at Gamescom. After that they were pretty much tapped for the rest of the year.

This time there are no excuses and I think both companies know that. Which makes me pretty sure this is going to be one for the books as far as what gets shown off by both.

The only reason you are getting this response is because of your OP, that you are already trying to go back from... Had you just said MS exclusives are tempting you no one would bother to answer, and that is probably why you phrased the OP as you have...

And you bought the console just because you tought the games were bad?

Sunset overdrive looks meh to me. Was not interested in it since the very first time I saw it. Games like Deep Down is more interesting to me.  With that I say goodnight.

You have a gaming PC, complain that some of those titles aren't proper exclusive, but list Titanfall and PvZ in your list of reasons to own an X1?

Seems legit.

I'm sorry, are you refuting that the fact that PS4 is the only platform of the two available in many countries around the world isn't boosting it's sales even further ahead of the X1 than it would have been if both were available in these countries from day 1? Because if not, my point stands. It's a big time boost for PS4, not just now, but in the long run when X1 will be fighting against people buying into the system their friends already own there.

Sure in many of these places PS4 would have outsold the X1 even if it had launched there, but it would have still given it better chances there moving forward, and therefore helped sales.

Anyway, this is getting off topic, and I'm off to bed. 

Don't we know that??? Even more when he says MS is producing the games.

This is getting way out of hand. The OP just seems like he is doing this on purpose now. 

Those couple thousand sales (yes thousand) in those other countries arent going to be much for XB1 when it releases

I'm not arguing at all. I'm just saying how it is. If he is using Titanfall, then I can use Warframe and the like.

I respect his opinion, but you gotta give credit for the right reasons.

imo this gen hasnt really started we havent really seen any game show us next gen gameplay like we saw with uncharted gears and COD last gen we should be seeing  these titles by 2015.  if i was in the market for a next gen console i would want one that will play 3rd partys superior since most games will be multi platform and in this gens case like the last one that console is also cheaper.  every gen each console usually always has exclusives for every fanbase but if you feel that you need to have/play a certain exclusive on a certain console than by all means get that console

infamous recently released on PS4 and theres a slew of PS exclusives released or releasing, as a gamer it wouldnt be wise to dismiss PS4 as having a diverse and a sheer amount of AAA exclusives especially after what weve seen with ps2 and 3.  PVZ, titanfall, future deadrising's and peggle 2 will come to PS4, once the PS4 builds up in even bigger sales lead it will be harder/expensiver for MS to acquire these timed exclusives