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Conference or Digital Event!

Conference 207 53.21%
 
Digital Event 99 25.45%
 
Who cares? E3 is E3 83 21.34%
 
Total:389
bigtakilla on 10 May 2014
baloofarsan said:
Live = a lot of talk with pieces of substance here and there.
Live = a lot of walking on and off stage
Live = a lot of events that try to use the whole stage that does not always translate well to those that watch it trough yuotube.

Prerecorded = easier to skip uninteresting information as you know where they start and stop segments.
Prerecoded = even people without showmanship but with knowledge (Iwata) can get their voice heard.
Prerecorded = a medium that is equal to everyone, as most viewer are sitting at home anyway.


Not to mention with a little bit of production value (which could come from, say, not spending millions renting time for an E3 presentation) and you could have something genuinely entertaining from start to finish. This would especially help microsoft (being their main branch is in the US) where they could work with the bigger names in the gaming community on youtube to come up with skits or themes.

I think it's time for these conferences to evolve myself, and I'm not afraid of change. Just because the E3 2013 direct was all info no presentation doesn't mean that's all it can be. 



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S.T.A.G.E. on 10 May 2014
bigtakilla said:

Yeah, I mean let's all travel back to last years E3 and remember the awesomeness!

Sony:

Here's a video of a wizard and goblin. It's not a game though, which makes this video pretty pointless. 

Followed up by making fun of Microsoft because their DRM crap is STUPID.

Followed by some GREAT NEWS GUYS! The two biggest games we're gonna show are NOW MULTIPLAT! (FFXV, and KH3, trailer shown for FFXV, Haley Joel Osmond just basically saying Kingdom Hearts 3 is coming, no real footage to be seen other than a split second of heartless in Twilight Town and a spinning pirate ship.) No release dates. 

rendered yellow balls bounce on a white screen.

Microsoft: 

WE GOT DRM, MT DEW AND DORITOS! FUCK YEAH, BE EXCITED!!!!! Should have got Gary Busy to be the spokesman.... (Que clap track)

 

Yeah, completely beats new footage of X, Bayonetta 2, and Mario 3D World; reveals of Smash Bros (with Mega Man), and Mario Kart 8. 

I'd be afraid. Lol.

Hmmmm... You left quite a bit out of Sonys conference and Microsofts. You're pretty much just mocking them. MS and Sony had third parties, second party and first party present, which at this current state Nintendo cannot contest. Even if Microsoft didnt develop most of their games they still came at the ready titles in hand. X is not a big time game and neither is Bayonetta...so I have no clue why you boast like it is. I will enjoy it when I buy it, but more people are salivating over FFXV than X. At this rate FFXV itself will boost console sales for Sony in Japan and the west and MS in the west.



Mr Khan on 10 May 2014
cheshirescat said:
If it were supplemental to a normal press conference that would be fine. I think some fans, not just nintendo's, would be well served in taking a step back and remembering that e3 isn't about them, it's about the media.

And the media still gets what they get. Last year there was a show for the media, this year there's plenty for the media.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

Torillian on 10 May 2014
bigtakilla said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Yeah, I mean let's all travel back to last years E3 and remember the awesomeness!

Sony:

Here's a video of a wizard and goblin. It's not a game though, which makes this video pretty pointless. 

Followed up by making fun of Microsoft because their DRM crap is STUPID.

Followed by some GREAT NEWS GUYS! The two biggest games we're gonna show are NOW MULTIPLAT! (FFXV, and KH3, trailer shown for FFXV, Haley Joel Osmond just basically saying Kingdom Hearts 3 is coming, no real footage to be seen other than a split second of heartless in Twilight Town and a spinning pirate ship.) No release dates. 

rendered yellow balls bounce on a white screen.

Microsoft: 

WE GOT DRM, MT DEW AND DORITOS! FUCK YEAH, BE EXCITED!!!!! Should have got Gary Busy to be the spokesman.... (Que clap track)

 

Yeah, completely beats new footage of X, Bayonetta 2, and Mario 3D World; reveals of Smash Bros (with Mega Man), and Mario Kart 8. 

I'd be afraid. Lol.

Not that I agree with the two you're quoting, but let's not act as though that's all that was at those two conferences, just looking at our round up articles you forgot:

The Order: 1886 announcement

New Trailers for: Killzone: Shadow Fall, Infamous: Second Son, Knack and Drive Club.

along with what was shown for the PS3 and the admittedly small amount for the Vita.  

Here's a link if you want a reminder to what was shown at E3 for Sony or MS

http://www.gamrreview.com/article/90145/sony-e3-conference-round-up/

http://www.gamrreview.com/article/90126/microsoft-e3-conference-xbox-one-software-round-up/

An argument can be made that those crappier moments detracted from these conferences while Nintendo didn't have anything like that, but if that's the argument you were trying to make you certainly didn't preset it as such.  



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S.T.A.G.E. on 10 May 2014
baloofarsan said:
Live = a lot of talk with pieces of substance here and there.
Live = a lot of walking on and off stage
Live = a lot of events that try to use the whole stage that does not always translate well to those that watch it trough yuotube.

Prerecorded = easier to skip uninteresting information as you know where they start and stop segments.
Prerecoded = even people without showmanship but with knowledge (Iwata) can get their voice heard.
Prerecorded = a medium that is equal to everyone, as most viewer are sitting at home anyway.


Half of Nintendos E3 conferences last gen were boasting about financials of the Wii. Now that the Wii U is in its current state they have nothing else to fill the gap with. Nintendo can go digital...but I would not recommend anyone following Nintendo.



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bigtakilla on 10 May 2014
Torillian said:
bigtakilla said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Yeah, I mean let's all travel back to last years E3 and remember the awesomeness!

Sony:

Here's a video of a wizard and goblin. It's not a game though, which makes this video pretty pointless. 

Followed up by making fun of Microsoft because their DRM crap is STUPID.

Followed by some GREAT NEWS GUYS! The two biggest games we're gonna show are NOW MULTIPLAT! (FFXV, and KH3, trailer shown for FFXV, Haley Joel Osmond just basically saying Kingdom Hearts 3 is coming, no real footage to be seen other than a split second of heartless in Twilight Town and a spinning pirate ship.) No release dates. 

rendered yellow balls bounce on a white screen.

Microsoft: 

WE GOT DRM, MT DEW AND DORITOS! FUCK YEAH, BE EXCITED!!!!! Should have got Gary Busy to be the spokesman.... (Que clap track)

 

Yeah, completely beats new footage of X, Bayonetta 2, and Mario 3D World; reveals of Smash Bros (with Mega Man), and Mario Kart 8. 

I'd be afraid. Lol.

Not that I agree with the two you're quoting, but let's not act as though that's all that was at those two conferences, just looking at our round up articles you forgot:

The Order: 1886 announcement

New Trailers for: Killzone: Shadow Fall, Infamous: Second Son, Knack and Drive Club.

along with what was shown for the PS3 and the admittedly small amount for the Vita.  

Here's a link if you want a reminder to what was shown at E3 for Sony or MS

http://www.gamrreview.com/article/90145/sony-e3-conference-round-up/

http://www.gamrreview.com/article/90126/microsoft-e3-conference-xbox-one-software-round-up/

An argument can be made that those crappier moments detracted from these conferences while Nintendo didn't have anything like that, but if that's the argument you were trying to make you certainly didn't preset it as such.  

Detracted from Killzone, or Infamous? They'd have to be good enough to detract from, and they are mediocre at best. I do remember that huge Call Of Duty Ghosts conference though, which was hillarious. Words being thrown around like "next gen experience" even though it's cross gen and the video of the fish swimming out of the way. Also funny how you give no other examples of to defend Microsoft. 

What I was commenting on was Nintendo's "fear" of E3 and yeah, nothing in that conference was anything to fear. Unless Nintendo has a fear of laughing.



Torillian on 10 May 2014
bigtakilla said:

Detracted from Killzone, or Infamous? They'd have to be good enough to detract from, and they are mediocre at best. I do remember that huge Call Of Duty Ghosts conference though, which was hillarious. Words being thrown around like "next gen experience" even though it's cross gen and the video of the fish swimming out of the way. Also funny how you give no other examples of to defend Microsoft. 

What I was commenting on was Nintendo's "fear" of E3 and yeah, nothing in that conference was anything to fear. Unless Nintendo has a fear of laughing.

So basically what you're telling me here is you aren't worth an attempt at a reasonable conversation trying to leave our fandoms to the side.  Glad we cleared that up.  



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bigtakilla on 10 May 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
bigtakilla said:

Yeah, I mean let's all travel back to last years E3 and remember the awesomeness!

Sony:

Here's a video of a wizard and goblin. It's not a game though, which makes this video pretty pointless. 

Followed up by making fun of Microsoft because their DRM crap is STUPID.

Followed by some GREAT NEWS GUYS! The two biggest games we're gonna show are NOW MULTIPLAT! (FFXV, and KH3, trailer shown for FFXV, Haley Joel Osmond just basically saying Kingdom Hearts 3 is coming, no real footage to be seen other than a split second of heartless in Twilight Town and a spinning pirate ship.) No release dates. 

rendered yellow balls bounce on a white screen.

Microsoft: 

WE GOT DRM, MT DEW AND DORITOS! FUCK YEAH, BE EXCITED!!!!! Should have got Gary Busy to be the spokesman.... (Que clap track)

 

Yeah, completely beats new footage of X, Bayonetta 2, and Mario 3D World; reveals of Smash Bros (with Mega Man), and Mario Kart 8. 

I'd be afraid. Lol.

Hmmmm... You left quite a bit out of Sonys conference and Microsofts. You're pretty much just mocking them. MS and Sony had third parties, second party and first party present, which at this current state Nintendo cannot contest. Even if Microsoft didnt develop most of their games they still came at the ready titles in hand. X is not a big time game and neither is Bayonetta...so I have no clue why you boast like it is. I will enjoy it when I buy it, but more people are salivating over FFXV than X. At this rate FFXV itself will boost console sales for Sony in Japan and the west and MS in the west.

Well it's always a bit easier to boast when you get exclusives. Just saying...



cheshirescat on 10 May 2014
Mr Khan said:
cheshirescat said:
If it were supplemental to a normal press conference that would be fine. I think some fans, not just nintendo's, would be well served in taking a step back and remembering that e3 isn't about them, it's about the media.

And the media still gets what they get. Last year there was a show for the media, this year there's plenty for the media.


The point is this, a fan who is willing to take the time to sit down and watch an e3 event, by and large, is a person who is already following the gaming media, someone who is invested in the industry, in other words a person whose money nintendo, sony or microsoft already has and can safely assume will receive more support from in the future.  Making them feel more involved is good at maintaining the relationship but the big 3 would be hard pressed in expanding their potential user base by focusing too much on them.



Ryudo on 10 May 2014

digital event. They cut out the fat that live shows have. So much suits doing long winded BS.
Digital even gets straight to the the meat of what E3 is about and now letting people acrtoss the US to play unreleased games.

Because Nintendo is doing it they get shit on.
Had Sony done it be the most revolutionary thing in the history of mankind to the media and fangirls