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LivingMetal on 05 May 2014
crissindahouse said:
artur-fernand said:
Again? Are you kidding me? What's the point of releasing jrpgs on a console that does not have the audience for that? Even last gen, when it was much better than PlayStation, it barely made any difference, and most games ended up on the PS3 anyway (Eternal Sonata, Star Ocean 4...)

I gotta tell you, I don't know what the hell is wrong with Sakaguchi these last few years. He just refuses to make anything for the Playstation. That completely baffles me. The guy makes 2 jrpgs exclusive to the 360, and then one for the dying Wii...?



I think the better question is why these JRPG fans didn't buy the console the games went to. It's not his fault if fanboys don't buy a console which has the wrong name on it even if they could get what they seem to want. As long as he can make money with his work he can do whatever he wants.


As a classic Final Fantasy fan who have been primarily gaming on Sony consoles for the past few years, I've purchase a Wii for The Last Story.  What does that make me?



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lucidium on 05 May 2014
kowenicki said:
lucidium said:
Blood_Tears said:
Thought this guy was a proven bullshitter?

Oh he is, when it's about the other console.


no, he is full stop.

who is saying otherwise?

You fail to grasp my point.

He's a bullshitter pure and simple, people just tend to believe him when causes suit, hence "other console" and not a specificly named console.

kowenicki said:

why dont you contribute rather than trouble causing.



outlawauron on 05 May 2014
crissindahouse said:
artur-fernand said:

Because no one expects a jrpg to be Xbox exclusive? By the time they release one, it's too late: I already bought a PS3 expecting the rpgs. It's just senseless really. Considering that the 360 was selling much better than the PS3, and the genre still failed to sell on the system, you really cannot dismiss this as "the work of fanboys" at this point. There's no better example than FFXIII.

Whether you like it or not, the jrpgs public is mostly on Playstation - Ni no Kuni sold better than Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey, despite not having Sakaguchi's name. It's like putting CoD only on a Nintendo system, and expecting it to sell the same thing. It just doesn't work.


When games like Blue Dragon and LO released I was pretty sure that they will stay on 360 so that I would have bought a 360 interested in these games. If you bought a PS3 when you saw these games releasing on 360 it's people like you tesponsible for low sales. It's someone like you who wanted to buy a PS3 without these games. If I would be a fan of games like CoD and would see them only on a Nintendo system I would simply buy this console and not "I don't buy the console because these games should be on PS4 and/or Xbox One". If people don't buy consoles for the games they get and are instead like "games have to release on consoles I buy" then it sound to me as if they are biased against this system.

2 games is not reason enough to buy a new console, especially when both are not proven IPs (and considering Blue Dragon isn't a good game). Now, there are enough games to justify the 360 purchase without question, but for those who can only get one console, it's unfortunate to miss out on the handful of good JRPGs on 360.



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DirtyP2002 on 05 May 2014

He is making things up again.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

Wright on 05 May 2014

Man, you people can ask a friend to lend their console if you want to play that bunch of JRPGs not available on your console of choice. It is that simple :/



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artur-fernand on 05 May 2014

 

crissindahouse said:

When games like Blue Dragon and LO released I was pretty sure that they will stay on 360 so that I would have bought a 360 interested in these games. If you bought a PS3 when you saw these games releasing on 360 it's people like you tesponsible for low sales. It's someone like you who wanted to buy a PS3 without these games. If I would be a fan of games like CoD and would see them only on a Nintendo system I would simply buy this console and not "I don't buy the console because these games should be on PS4 and/or Xbox One". If people don't buy consoles for the games they get and are instead like "games have to release on consoles I buy" then it sound to me as if they are biased against this system.

That's excellent if you can buy multiple consoles. Many people can't. You're not understanding my logic: my console of choice is based on my gaming preferences. If the Xbox One had 30 games, and the PS4 only 3, I'd still buy a PS4 because I enjoy Sony ip's, and have no experience with MS ip's. If I like jrpgs, the last thing I'd think is to buy a Xbox to play jrpgs. The fact that Tales never released on the 360 again (and was a million seller on the PS3, unlike Vesperia), Ni no Kuni was PS3 exclusive (also a million seller, unlike LO and BD) and Eternal Sonata got an enhanced PS3 port (which sold better than the 360 version) pretty much proves my point. Making exclusive jrpgs on the Xbox is about the most illogical thing you can do.

 

 

Serious_frusting said:

Pretty much this.

 

Also why does your sig have 15 in the middle? Is it because you dont count 14 and wanted to have the latest FF to come out displayed in the middle? It just seems strange


I didn't include XI and XIV because... well, it wouldn't fit. And I haven't played them, so it seemed natural. I did play FFXIV on a friends' house though, and had a pretty good first impression. If I had the money and the time, I'd play it.

And yes, I wanted to put the latest FF on the middle.



lucidium on 05 May 2014
Wright said:

Man, you people can ask a friend to lend their console if you want to play that bunch of JRPGs not available on your console of choice. It is that simple :/

better yet buy an old ps1 and work through its backlog. 



NeoRatt on 05 May 2014

It was probably for putting LO on Games on Demand...

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/05/05/phil-spencer-wants-xboxs-e3-to-be-focused-on-hardcore-gamers-no-portable-xbox-coming-and-more/

Phil said the contract for Lost Odyssey is a bit complicated. So, I doubt we will see anything soon.



AZWification on 05 May 2014
RenCutypoison said:
Party wave kinect edition ?

Still better than Kinect Sports Rivals!



                
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crissindahouse on 05 May 2014
LivingMetal said:
crissindahouse said:
artur-fernand said:
Again? Are you kidding me? What's the point of releasing jrpgs on a console that does not have the audience for that? Even last gen, when it was much better than PlayStation, it barely made any difference, and most games ended up on the PS3 anyway (Eternal Sonata, Star Ocean 4...)

I gotta tell you, I don't know what the hell is wrong with Sakaguchi these last few years. He just refuses to make anything for the Playstation. That completely baffles me. The guy makes 2 jrpgs exclusive to the 360, and then one for the dying Wii...?



I think the better question is why these JRPG fans didn't buy the console the games went to. It's not his fault if fanboys don't buy a console which has the wrong name on it even if they could get what they seem to want. As long as he can make money with his work he can do whatever he wants.


As a classic Final Fantasy fan who have been primarily gaming on Sony consoles for the past few years, I've purchase a Wii for The Last Story.  What does that make me?



Edit: Damn, my longer post got deleted and I'm on the phone. In short: If you bought a console for something you need this console for you did the right thing and if everyone would do that there wouldn't be a "genre xy belongs on console z" because the genres would sell on every system.