| Carl2291 said: Nothing at all worthwhile came from it anyway, so nothing of importance was lost. |
It amazes me how many gamers apparently think like this.
You do realise that Sony is a big company, and that their purchase of shares at 8% is an investment, not a matter of control or influence, right? That Sony gets dividends from any SE profit?
Between 2004 and 2010, SE was making strong profit, from what I can see. It was only from 2011 that everything fell apart.
I don't know how much SE was paying in dividends, but if you assume 20 billion yen per year profit, and, say, 25% of that was paid in dividends (known as the dividend payout ratio - and 25% is low even by modern standards), with 18.6% stake held (from that old article), then Sony would have gotten 930 million yen per year in dividends from SE, for a total over the years between 2004 and 2010 of 6.5 billion yen. Not a bad return over 7 years on a 14.9 billion yen investment (it's roughly a return of 6.2% per annum).
Y'all love bringing up nintendo to deflect the truth nintendo just bought a Brand NEW development building so it's obvious they are not hurting for money on the other hand ps4 is selling and sony is still in BIG trouble
TheLastStarFighter said:
It's not big news in and of itself, but it could be the precursor to a bigger move. Not unlike when MS was about to buy 51% of Rare, Nintendo sold their 49% since, well, they had to. S-E has had some financial challenges, but still holds some very valuable brands. It could very well be that either MS or Nintendo are in the process of buying a controlling stake in the company. |
ok kool understandable but i dont c this benefitting ms cause i dont c anybody switching consoles to buy any SE games there r ok but not worth that ! and in nintendo's case this may be just may be give the wii u a good push
| Aielyn said: It amazes me how many gamers apparently think like this. You do realise that Sony is a big company, and that their purchase of shares at 8% is an investment, not a matter of control or influence, right? That Sony gets dividends from any SE profit? Between 2004 and 2010, SE was making strong profit, from what I can see. It was only from 2011 that everything fell apart. -snip- I don't know how much SE was paying in dividends, but if you assume 20 billion yen per year profit, and, say, 25% of that was paid in dividends (known as the dividend payout ratio - and 25% is low even by modern standards), with 18.6% stake held (from that old article), then Sony would have gotten 930 million yen per year in dividends from SE, for a total over the years between 2004 and 2010 of 6.5 billion yen. Not a bad return over 7 years on a 14.9 billion yen investment (it's roughly a return of 6.2% per annum). |
I was talking from my own selfish point of view as a PlayStation gamer 
wolfofthepack said:
ok kool understandable but i dont c this benefitting ms cause i dont c anybody switching consoles to buy any SE games there r ok but not worth that ! and in nintendo's case this may be just may be give the wii u a good push |
SE games have very dedicated fans and Sony exclusivity of the titles was a major factor in Playstation sucess in the PS1/PS2 days. MS securing FF for the North American market on 360 was a huge move in loosening the Playstion grasp. SE is also a market leader in Japan, and where their titles go, other third parties will follow.
That said, the brand is at a major low right now. Final Fantasy is seen to be in decline, and their game production is slow and expensive. I don't know that even FF would help MS in Japan. I can see great value in Nintendo taking a controlling share. FF, DQ, Mario and Pokemon would give Nintendo dominance in Japan and most likely lead to full 3rd party support from other Japanese publishers like Capcom and Konami, which would have a global impact in Wii U sales and sales for future systems. Tomb Raider would also give them a solid western IP. They would really have to streamline SE's production though. Way too inefficient. Not saying it will happen, but it could make sense.
TheLastStarFighter said:
That said, the brand is at a major low right now. Final Fantasy is seen to be in decline, and their game production is slow and expensive. I don't know that even FF would help MS in Japan. I can see great value in Nintendo taking a controlling share. FF, DQ, Mario and Pokemon would give Nintendo dominance in Japan and most likely lead to full 3rd party support from other Japanese publishers like Capcom and Konami, which would have a global impact in Wii U sales and sales for future systems. Tomb Raider would also give them a solid western IP. They would really have to streamline SE's production though. Way too inefficient. Not saying it will happen, but it could make sense. |
yep as i said only might benefit nin! well lets c wat happens but honestly only their western ips (and star ocean which i waited till they ported to ps3 )out of all there games last gen that was localized was good imo
| Carl2291 said: I was talking from my own selfish point of view as a PlayStation gamer |
But even from that perspective, it's wrong. That money they got in dividends? It most likely went to either directly fund video game development, or to marketing that would drive further sales of games on the system, which would have helped to further bolster various franchises.
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