lol i only just got liek my first badge haha.

Tagging this. Just got the first badge also.

Is super training essentially the new way.to.train ev? Been out of the game for a long time.

Long post incoming, but if you truly wish to know about competitive Pokemon training, please read onward! But if you only wish to know which resource can help you because you're fine in finding everything else on you're own, look up these following websites listed in order of priority.

1. http://www.smogon.com/ as the competitive Pokedex analyzer for strong overused Pokemon, Pokemon tiers, and its online battle simulator

2. http://serebii.net/games/mechanics.shtml from http://serebii.net/index2.shtml Pay attention to the right side bar that begins with in depth Mechanics, followed by Effort values and Individual Values

3. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page the wikipedia page for everything related to Pokemon. Including the competitive meta game mechanics.

End of intro - start of long post

Smogon is a website dedicated to analyzing over used Pokemon in the competitive battling scenery. In fact, some people say Game Freak works with them with each Pokemon game to make sure they are balancing the Pokemon metagame correctly. Smogon has bio for each Pokemon they bother to analyze but they will definitely analyze the strong overused Pokemon you may want to include in your teams.

They have details like
1. The Pokemon base overall stats
2. The Pokemon's popular move sets...
3. ... along with the Pokemon's popular IV and EV for said move set...
4 ... and even which held item should be equipped for that move set.

Here's an example of a Smogon entry for Alakazam, an overused Pokemon in Red and Blue to Black and White 2. http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/alakazam

As you can see, they even have a a paragraph dedicated to check and counters to Alakazam if don't wish to have it in your team, but are afraid others have him and you wish to counter it.

Unfortunately, they are still working at analyzing every Pokemon again in the X and Y gen. But you can look at their X Y competitive metegame preview here: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sixth-generation-pokemon-analyses-index.3494918/

Smogon also offers a FREE online simulator where you can a build team of Pokemon from Gen X and Y and customize each Pokemon's IV, EV, stats, movesets, and held items. Afterwards, you can battle other people who have done so as well. And there is sizable amount of people that do this so you won't have to wait for finding a battle. It's real time as well with a chat box and all that jazz. Do this first before you decide to train a certain Pokemon or team in your actual game. You cannot transport the Pokemon you made in the online simulator to your Pokemon game. This online battle simulation is called Pokemon Showdown! and I'll post the link below:

http://www.smogon.com/sim/

Serebii is also very helpful. It was the website that taught me what EV and IVs are and has a calculator that calculates your Pokemon IV. You cannot do this in game so this is an invaluable source.

Here's serebii's guide to EVs:

http://www.serebii.net/games/evs.shtml

It's a long read, but it gives you everything you need to know without cutting the corners. If you don't want to read most of it, then forget about going through training EVs. Knowledge is definitely power here.

Likewise, here's serebii's guide IV's.

http://www.serebii.net/games/ivs.shtml

It has a tiny section about  X and Y below. But again, read this fully.

And if you even find a game mechanic term that is repetitively brought up in Smogon and Serebii, just google that term with Serebii, Smogon and bulbapedia attached to it.

Bulbapedia is Pokemon wikia page. And its massive and very helpful.

Disclaimer: I have never built a a full competitive Pokemon team and beat anyone else that actually had one. But I truly believe you should check the websites I listed above.

It's a great way to EV train early game, or get very precise EV's.

Horde Battle EV training works better post game.

I use both if I don't use the standard 252 / 252 / 4 spread.

A great example is the other day I was EV training a Hariyama.

I needed 252 Attack / 172 Defense / 84 Speed (total 508), which means I had 2 spare EV's that didn't matter.

First I infected her with Pokerus and gave her a Power Bracer.

Then went to route 19 with a Vileplume to cast Sweet Scent to guarentee a Horde battle.

Any pokemon with an AoE attack (I was using Nidoking with Sludge Wave) should be first in the party and Exp Share should be on.

I would only attack Weepinbell and Arbok hordes, each time gaining 50 attack EV's.  Did this 6 times to reach 252 in attack.

Then I flew to Victory Road, equipped Power Belt, and fought only Geodude hordes.  Did this 3 times = 150 Defense.

I then went to Super Training and did Golem mini game twice, each is 12 so 24, so now 174 (the 2 spare EV's are taken care of).

Finally I flew to route 15, equipped a Power Anklet, and only fought Murkrow hordes, did this 2 times which capped at 84.

oh man so many things to consider, and i can't be fucked to write it all down.
I learnt all my stuff from youtube users MTG Xerxes, Marriland, TSP and Utton back in the early days of diamond and pearl before Smogon emerged as a large player - just watch youtube videos battle with commentary you will eventually learn all the intricacies.

Nonsense! Smogon was already huge player in Gen Ruby and Sapphire. It just wasn't huge in the form that people knew it existed.

Since DP came out 7 years ago (wow, it's been that long!) I've always battled with the same team I was given by an old friend, not sure how good it is or if it's even a good team at all ( I'm honestly a bonehead when it comes to stuff like this), Can anyone here do me the honor of rating my team? ^^

Why not.  Show us your wacky team!

I was trying to say this. It just didn't come off well lmfao

as a newb... have this pattern.. im no expert but i win some matches with this kind of teams....


Special Wall - pokemon that will sponge special attack
Physical Wall - pokemon that will sponge physical attack
wall - pokemon that will sponge both physical or special (pretty rare but some pokemon have this ability but you need some set up)
Physical attacker/sweeper - pokemon with good speed and/or physical attacks
special attacker/sweeper - pokemon with good speed and/or special attacks


other pokemon
defogger or rapid spinner - pokemon that will remove entry hazards
haxers or status inducers - pokemon that will put status on pokemons
scout - a pokemon that will be use first
cleric - pokemon that will heal your pokemons
...
ok there are too much...



go to shttp://play.pokemonshowdown.com/
you can build a team there and practice