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Of course it deserves it. Because it's a badass console. 

 

Rogerioandrade said:
I agree to a certain extent.
I don´t think that Vita software numbers prove that Vita owners are avid consumers, or more than anyone else. Right now Vita has just one million-seller with 8 million devices sold. By comparison, the struggling WiiU, with 6 million devices sold, already has six million-sellers.

Despite the lack of million sellers, the claim it sells software is well funded. CoD for Vita is a terrible game, but it outsolds easily the Wii U CoD that is the real deal. NFS: MW sold more on Vita than on Wii U (best console version) and Assassin's Creed was the same situation. Games like Street Fighter X Tekken had numbers surprinsingly close to the PS360 versions, even with the lower install base, MK got 0.5M even if it was a late port (probably outsold the PC version) and the Fifa games got between 0.3-0.5 each (outselling the 3DS versions easily). 3DS has a much larger install base, but most of it's million and multi-million sellers are either Nintendo games or Monster Hunter. A lot of 3rd party games that come to both actually sell more on Vita.



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Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Yea but Sony promised it a lot more than Nintendo did... Sony was basically like, you get this, you will have the AAA experience! Instead what we got is a half-assed version of virtually all third party western games and poor first party support from sony. Least with Nintendo, you have AAA first party games and they pretty much stopped promising that AAA experience after like the first few months of release... Heck, SSB, one of the biggest titles on Nintendo platform is coming to the 3ds this summer... What is the Vita getting? Fuck all!

Wait. I thought handheld games that have a console counterpart didn't count?

Anyway, you're right. Vita is getting fuck all. No big games have been announced for it for nearly 6 hours now, it's ridiculous.

SCREW YOU SONY!



GdaTyler said:
tbone51 said:

Vita reputation is bad not cuz of its sales (which are doing well in japan now) but because to most its more of an indie machine and a ps4 accessory and has too many ports despite how many jrpgs the system has.

Sony not supporting it doesn't help out (yes i know there are a few games from sony 1st party studios but not really), but it def can build up the momentum from japan spike in sales with a couple good releases ( especially AAA ones). Europe its ok in but in US it needs alot of improvement.

I dont think sales are the bad reputation, cuz if it had those AAA titles and less ports it wouldn't have such a bad rep!

That said, vita tv is needed outside of japan, not the vita slim that will only come with one color and a port of a nearly two year old game

Fixed.


For me, the biggest thing on the bundle is the US$ 199 price tag with a 8GB card. Most of the bundles on US came with a game but a 4GB card that can't store almost nothing. Borderlands 2 won't make difference, it's too old. I wonder if a bundle like that but with Killzone would'nt be better (or at least they should make bundles with different games to give options to the consumer).



It's a good system. It doesn't have as much games as the 3DS, that's true. But it has as much valuable games as the 3DS in my eyes, so I bought one, and I'm not disappointed.



brendude13 said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Yea but Sony promised it a lot more than Nintendo did... Sony was basically like, you get this, you will have the AAA experience! Instead what we got is a half-assed version of virtually all third party western games and poor first party support from sony. Least with Nintendo, you have AAA first party games and they pretty much stopped promising that AAA experience after like the first few months of release... Heck, SSB, one of the biggest titles on Nintendo platform is coming to the 3ds this summer... What is the Vita getting? Fuck all!

Wait. I thought handheld games that have a console counterpart didn't count?

Anyway, you're right. Vita is getting fuck all. No big games have been announced for it for nearly 6 hours now, it's ridiculous.

SCREW YOU SONY!

Define what counts as big game to you? And give me some examples as well just so I know we are in the same page here cause to me a game like SSB, Bravely Default, Pokemon and etc are big games cause they a) sell a lot of units b) sell a lot of systems c) quality, high-budget titles... Granted there are 3 games that got announced not too long ago for the vita but they once again, cater to that niche audience that the vita is known for and not much else. But if your defination is different, thats fine too.

Also, unlike games like Playstation All Stars, SSB has enough differences such as Stages, Single Player, Multiplayer and Adventure mode to warrant it counting as a different game since the only things that are the same are the characters and items but virtually everything else is different which is why anyone would want to buy the game twice if you have both systems



                  

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Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Define what counts as big game to you? And give me some examples as well just so I know we are in the same page here cause to me a game like SSB, Bravely Default, Pokemon and etc are big games cause they a) sell a lot of units b) sell a lot of systems c) quality, high-budget titles... Granted there are 3 games that got announced not too long ago for the vita but they once again, cater to that niche audience that the vita is known for and not much else. But if your defination is different, thats fine too.


I don't particularly want to get into a debate with you but I just wanted to address a few points in this.

@ bolded - you named 3 3DS titles.  That alone should've set off alarm bells that you shouldn't include the word "budget" in there.  But anyway, regardless, I'm willing to bet that the budget for the 3 Vita games that were recently announced is at least in the same ballpark those games you listed.  Freedom Wars has been in development for 3 years; looks plenty polished and flashy for a Vita game.  Oreshika is a bit more on the cheaper side of things, but still, we're talking about Japanese-developed handheld games that aren't particularly pushing graphical boundaries - they're not going to have massive differences in budgets.

And can we say anything for the quality of Smash; Oreshika; Soul Sac & Freedom Wars yet?  None of them are released in the west.  3 of them aren't released anywhere yet.

@ underlined - did Bravely Default sell a lot of systems?  It sold a good amount of software.  Was it selling copies to people who bought a 3DS at the same time or was it selling to people who already had the system?  Seems an odd one to throw in there.

Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Also, unlike games like Playstation All Stars, SSB has enough differences such as Stages, Single Player, Multiplayer and Adventure mode to warrant it counting as a different game since the only things that are the same are the characters and items but virtually everything else is different which is why anyone would want to buy the game twice if you have both systems

You'd hope so too, since they charge you twice for it, which they didn't for PSABR.



RenCutypoison said:
It's a good system. It doesn't have as much games as the 3DS, that's true. But it has as much valuable games as the 3DS in my eyes, so I bought one, and I'm not disappointed.

If you count the number of good games Vita is just as good if not better than 3DS. Looking at the Metacritic (I know, I know not a perfectly good metric but gives a very good idea), there are 39 80+ rated 3DS games, while the number for the Vita is 42. Between 70-80, there are 40 Vita games, 37 for 3DS. At the very top 3DS has a few more good games, I agree. However, in terms of pure numbers Vitais ahead.



I love my PSVita. Love All-Stars on it, FFX HD is a blast and I am really enjoying Lone survivor and SFvsT (courtesy of PS+). Looking forward to Freedom Wars, but it needs more love from Sony, big time.



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Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
brendude13 said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Yea but Sony promised it a lot more than Nintendo did... Sony was basically like, you get this, you will have the AAA experience! Instead what we got is a half-assed version of virtually all third party western games and poor first party support from sony. Least with Nintendo, you have AAA first party games and they pretty much stopped promising that AAA experience after like the first few months of release... Heck, SSB, one of the biggest titles on Nintendo platform is coming to the 3ds this summer... What is the Vita getting? Fuck all!

Wait. I thought handheld games that have a console counterpart didn't count?

Anyway, you're right. Vita is getting fuck all. No big games have been announced for it for nearly 6 hours now, it's ridiculous.

SCREW YOU SONY!

Define what counts as big game to you? And give me some examples as well just so I know we are in the same page here cause to me a game like SSB, Bravely Default, Pokemon and etc are big games cause they a) sell a lot of units b) sell a lot of systems c) quality, high-budget titles... Granted there are 3 games that got announced not too long ago for the vita but they once again, cater to that niche audience that the vita is known for and not much else. But if your defination is different, thats fine too.

Also, unlike games like Playstation All Stars, SSB has enough differences such as Stages, Single Player, Multiplayer and Adventure mode to warrant it counting as a different game since the only things that are the same are the characters and items but virtually everything else is different which is why anyone would want to buy the game twice if you have both systems

I'd rather buy it once and get it for both system. Buy one get one is a better deal in my eyes.



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Areym said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Define what counts as big game to you? And give me some examples as well just so I know we are in the same page here cause to me a game like SSB, Bravely Default, Pokemon and etc are big games cause they a) sell a lot of units b) sell a lot of systems c) quality, high-budget titles... Granted there are 3 games that got announced not too long ago for the vita but they once again, cater to that niche audience that the vita is known for and not much else. But if your defination is different, thats fine too.

Also, unlike games like Playstation All Stars, SSB has enough differences such as Stages, Single Player, Multiplayer and Adventure mode to warrant it counting as a different game since the only things that are the same are the characters and items but virtually everything else is different which is why anyone would want to buy the game twice if you have both systems

I'd rather buy it once and get it for both system. Buy one get one is a better deal on my eyes.

Well, for the exact same game, not like theres much choice



                  

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