So what your saying is that Nintendo should not delay their games for extra polish. Conform to industry standards by releasing buggy unfinished games, that require patches, let the gamers report the problems? Wtf?

This is solved easily by simply hiring more devs. Just because nintendo is tight with the pursestrings doesnt mean we should praise them for one franchise entry per gen.

Arrogance is the wrong word here. More like a blind person lead down the wrong path.

They did listen to ONE 3rd party dev, that was EA with their unprecedented support. Remember E3 when EA was like Wii U is a powerful exciting machine etc..I think Nintendo hopped that if they won EA over that others would follow. Instead EA trolled Nintendo.

Could Nintendo hardware been ore powerful? SURE, however realistically who would pay a higher price for a Nintendo product? Nintendo have conditioned their consumers as being a lower price product. If they jumped to $400USD-$500USD no one would have bought it even with added value. They would have to sell it at a significant loss to sell hardware. Nintendo cannot do that as their business is purely gaming. Sony and Microsoft are diversified so they can take bigger losses at launch and still be operational. Granted Sony has been in a bit of a down with other divisions not performing well either. However if Microsoft really wanted they could sell the XBOX one for $100 and no feel a pinch (except a few pissed off investors who have no idea of long term building and want short returns)

Finally the whole whole 3DS removing 3D and people still knowing its a next gen model cause it has a "wide screen" is absurd. To this day people still think its a new DS model and even some game sale websites group the two under DS lol. It really needed a new name or better marketing.

The other major mistake Nintendo made was thinking word of mouth would sell the Wii U like it did the Wii. Problem is Wii U has an identity crisis much like the 3DS but far worst. People think its just the gamepad as a Wii addon. Nintendo is also somewhat out of touch with the West. It worked great in the N64 era when Nintendo US and EU could go out and close development deals. So many good game come out in that period as NIntendo published (even though the hardware sold bad compared to PS1). Now that Japan controls everything it isn't working.

Too bad nintendo doesn't buy out a western developer the size of Rare so that it can replace the gaping hole Rare left. I mean a Donkey kong and/or metroid every 3-4 years is nice but not enough variety and consistency for a western studio to uphold a whole company. Nintendo needs to address it's true weakness and that is western development

I mean one of the pillars of N64 and Gamecube was RAres brilliance, diversity, and appeal. Wii u is looking to sell less than gamecube and it coincides with weak US sales and weak western development

i want nintendo to sell more so that they have incentive to continue making consoles but they really need more western developers or even give NOA more autonomy with hiring and starting development teams

What about the Wii and DS? The Wii especially sold more than N64 and Gamecube combined without Rare.

What about wii u? I mean the casual audience that the wii attracted is fickle.  The hardcore game base is more loyal then casuals who buy the latest trend (see iphone / ipad).  Where are the millions who bought wiis?  At least N64 had a bigger carry over of gamers from SNES.  I mean the core gamer will wait in anticipation for a new game while casuals don't know it even is launching or even exists unless HEAVILY ADVERTISED OR WORD OF MOUTH MAKES IT A TREND... 

Same thing with PS2 many casuals bought it for the dvd aspect.  I was a nintendo only gamer from late 80s/early 90s and even I bought PS2 for the dvd aspect with gameplay benefit

Fun :)

I saw the topic.. and thought it was about all the pointless "i know what nintendo should do" and "nintendo don't know shit"  treads