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colafitte on 26 March 2014
Zero999 said:
colafitte said:
Well, with 1 week left of March and 470k ps4 sold in Japan, now it seems obvious that Namco guy who said PS4 will sell 500k at the end of March was completely right. Probably he knew Sony was just going to ship 500k for the end of the fiscal year, and that's why the ps4 have been so consistent in the 30k figure. This was planed from the begining.

After 31 March, i don't have a clue what will happen, but i don't expect Sony pushing a lot of shipments there, so I think they'll try to establish PS4 around 15-20k (average) every week for the rest of the year, waiting until a huge japanese game launches, and meanwhile, focus in USA and Europe against Xbox One.

Ps4 doesn't have any supply problem in japan.


So if, next week PS4 sells around 25k, ending March with practically 500k, you wouldn't consider it suspicious to be true???, i mean the fact that Sony intended to sell 500k. I'm not saying there is stock issues, but, maybe, they just predicted from the begining how much they were going to sell. Maybe they didn't shipped 500k but maybe 520k, 530k, 540k, or 550k....???.



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Zero999 on 26 March 2014
Fusioncode said:
Zero999 said:

Yeah, if wii u sells 0 units from now, ps4 will pass it in like 15 months.

But I'm curious, you think those games will make ps4 sell many millions in a short period?

No they don't need to sell millions at once, the PS4 is roughly 1.2m under the WiiU currently, the gap will shrink throughout the year as long as the PS4 has a higher baseline. We'll see how far apart they are in 2015 but I'm pretty sure the gap will be under a million. FFXV, MGSV, and possibly RE7 should close that pretty easily. 

The ps4 is tracking a lot lower than wii u and the gap will get much bigger through the year. Ps4 simply doesnt have any perspective to gain ground against all the games coming to wii u.

Now, want to make things interesting and bet? I win if ps4 doesnt surpass wii u ltd in japan in 2015. you win if ps4 pass wii u ltd in japan in 2015.



Zero999 on 26 March 2014
colafitte said:
Zero999 said:

Ps4 doesn't have any supply problem in japan.


So if, next week PS4 sells around 25k, ending March with practically 500k, you wouldn't consider it suspicious to be true???, i mean the fact that Sony intended to sell 500k. I'm not saying there is stock issues, but, maybe, they just predicted from the begining how much they were going to sell. Maybe they didn't shipped 500k but maybe 520k, 530k, 540k, or 550k....???.

what's suspicious about a guess? ps4 isn't selling out in japan. it doesn't depend supply to sell.



ethomaz on 26 March 2014

From GAF.

PS3 first 15 weeks

81.639 / 81.639
42.099 / 123.738
32.662 / 156.400
31.436 / 187.836
50.171 / 238.007
70.942 / 308.949
76.882 / 385.831
71.727 / 457.558
69.944 / 527.501
25.531 / 553.032
21.105 / 574.137
19.996 / 594.133
18.727 / 612.860
23.431 / 636.291
20.676 / 656.967


PS4 first 5 weeks

309.154 / 309.154
65.685 / 374.839
35.294 / 410.133
29.677 / 439.810
30.201 / 470.011



orniletter on 26 March 2014
ethomaz said:
Ground Zeroes amazing with 250k without digital... Konami expect 1.5m WW.

PS4 low numbers not boosted by Ground Zeroes bundles... or I'm missing something?

Vita killing everything.


Selling 3000 units more than it´s nearest competitor on one tracker and 4000 less on the other tracker is not what I would call "killing everything" .



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orniletter on 26 March 2014

Hero Bank looked interesting D:

Well, that is that I guess .

Good HW numbers for the Vita, good Playstation software numbers.....and good legs for Kirby and Yokai Watch !



colafitte on 26 March 2014
Zero999 said:
colafitte said:
Zero999 said:

Ps4 doesn't have any supply problem in japan.


So if, next week PS4 sells around 25k, ending March with practically 500k, you wouldn't consider it suspicious to be true???, i mean the fact that Sony intended to sell 500k. I'm not saying there is stock issues, but, maybe, they just predicted from the begining how much they were going to sell. Maybe they didn't shipped 500k but maybe 520k, 530k, 540k, or 550k....???.

what's suspicious about a guess? ps4 isn't selling out in japan. it doesn't depend supply to sell.


Maybe i'm not expressing myself correctly. Selling out is not the point here, they don't need to. What i mean is the VP of Namco, before PS4 launched said he expected 500k units sold for 31 March. What i'm saying, is, that maybe he was so sure about that number because Sony was expecting the same and he knew that. In conclusion, Sony made a calculated aproach to reach the 500k figure as consistent as possible. 

Look at the numbers...

PS4 first 5 weeks

309.154 / 309.154
65.685 / 374.839
35.294 / 410.133
29.677 / 439.810
30.201 / 470.011

(thanks to ethomaz post)

The numbers seems too round and calculated, and if PS4 sells 25k next week, after MGS GZ launch, i think what i'm saying must be true.



Fusioncode on 26 March 2014
Zero999 said:
Fusioncode said:
Zero999 said:

Yeah, if wii u sells 0 units from now, ps4 will pass it in like 15 months.

But I'm curious, you think those games will make ps4 sell many millions in a short period?

No they don't need to sell millions at once, the PS4 is roughly 1.2m under the WiiU currently, the gap will shrink throughout the year as long as the PS4 has a higher baseline. We'll see how far apart they are in 2015 but I'm pretty sure the gap will be under a million. FFXV, MGSV, and possibly RE7 should close that pretty easily. 

The ps4 is tracking a lot lower than wii u and the gap will get much bigger through the year. Ps4 simply doesnt have any perspective to gain ground against all the games coming to wii u.

Now, want to make things interesting and bet? I win if ps4 doesnt surpass wii u ltd in japan in 2015. you win if ps4 pass wii u ltd in japan in 2015.

The WiiU launched during the holidays, and I highly doubt the PS4 will fall under 5k weekly like the WiiU did. The WiiU doesn't exactly have a stellar lineup, no real system sellers other than MK8 and Smash Bros.

That's a long bet. But sure I'll take it. 



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ethomaz on 26 March 2014

colafitte said:

Maybe i'm not expressing myself correctly. Selling out is not the point here, they don't need to. What i mean is the VP of Namco, before PS4 launched said he expected 500k units sold for 31 March. What i'm saying, is, that maybe he was so sure about that number because Sony was expecting the same and he knew that. In conclusion, Sony made a calculated aproach to reach the 500k figure as consistent as possible.

Look at the numbers...

PS4 first 5 weeks

309.154 / 309.154
65.685 / 374.839
35.294 / 410.133
29.677 / 439.810
30.201 / 470.011

(thanks to ethomaz post)

The numbers seems too round and calculated, and if PS4 sells 25k next week, after MGS GZ launch, i think what i'm saying must be true.

I guess the shipments per week can be like...

350k / 350k
50k / 400k
50k / 450k
50k / 500k
50k / 550k
50k / 600k

600k shipped with 500k sold seem right to me.



pokoko on 26 March 2014

Where is your Game Center god at now, huh?

Fun week overall.