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Forums - Nintendo - Wii U a lost cause? Fire sale of new Wii U releases inc DK. We need to talk about it!

BuckStud said:

I find it interesting that these threads are almost always started by someone with a pro Playstation signature.  What's wrong, bored because you don't have anything new to play?


If you show me where I can get a signature that also reflects the Wii U and 3DS games I play please link me.

I think you'll find my Wii U collection is far bigger than my PS4 collection (even more so having bought these Wii U titles and recently sold AC4 on PS4) for obvious reasons and I also have 2 LE 3DS systems. This is my current 8th gen collection:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=178892&page=1

Though I've now added a couple more 3DS titles.

I find it interesting that it's impossible to voice concern about anything Nintendo related without someone accusing you of being a fanboy of a particular brand and being bored from having nothing to play. I'm sure you can see I already have plenty to play. It's just an observation I have made having been gaming for nearly 30 years. Most of that time spent on Nintendo software. It's a shame I can't link to my club nintendo account to show you just how much money Nintendo have had from me over the past decade.



RIP Dad 25/11/51 - 13/12/13. You will be missed but never forgotten.

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Have been VERY tempted to get Ninja Gaiden 3 myself but got waaaay to much of a Wii U backlog at the moment.



MikeRox said:
domflo said:
Considering DKCTF was 42,99€ in most stores here in Germany at launch, I don't see how 30£ is anything worth talking about. That's like, what, a 5€ price reduction? Fairly normal, if you ask me. Especially considering most games are a bit less costly in Britain anyway.


It was £39.99 2 weeks ago. Thats a 25% reduction in 2 weeks.

It was my understanding that Nintendo doesn't have RRPs for their games anymore (or was that only for their systems?), and if Grainger Games wanted to sell the game for 39,99£ while the game was available at most German retailers for 42,99€ before or at launch (amazon.de, otto.de, conrad.de, MediaMarkt, Saturn, Gamestop and Müller (that's where I checked when I wanted to buy the game)), suggesting that the common price is/was 42,99€ (it's now 39,99€ at amazon, but again, that's fairly common), then they had a lot of reasons to drop that price, and none of them have anything to do with WiiU being a "lost cause" or not. It's simple economics.

I mean, I know that prices differ between these regions, but they still are fairly similar since you can just import your stuff thanks to the EU. If they overcharge for the game, they have to lower the price. The MediaMarkt I bought the game at (for 42,99€) is now sold out of the game, the one selling it for 49,99€ (which is about 50 kilometers away from the first one) still has plenty in stock, and I'd expect them to lower that price soon.



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This is the point I'm trying to raise. Even online with Wii first party games, you pretty much paid RRP for the game months upon months after release (even years in most game's cases)

Look at the fact Mario Galaxy 2 is still £35ish on Amazon. Yet Super Mario 3D World is cheaper.

Yes retailers have the option of lowering how much they charge for a game. However they only do it based on market demands. I don't know how it works in Germany. However GAME in particular, will charge RRP or even more, if they think they can get it (PS4 peripherals cost more at GAME than Sony suggest they're sold for, for example).

However we have to remember, this is a brand new release. And pretty much every retailer in the UK has seen fit to lower their asking price (which comes directly out of their profits on the sales) on the game. This indicates a lack of demand.

Were it not a Nintendo logo on the box, I wouldn't be too surprised. But I can't name a time that Nintendo games have universally had price reductions from most retailers less than a month after launching.

The thing I'm trying to discuss here is, is this a Wii U thing due to the abnormally low userbase, especially in the UK. Or is it going to become the norm for Nintendo as well as other manufacturers?

Sadly a lot of people have gone so defensive as if to say this is just an anti Nintendo post. Why the f**k would I have 2 3DS systems + games and 10 Wii U titles if I just want to seek pleasure from Nintendo failing in my country's marketplace?



RIP Dad 25/11/51 - 13/12/13. You will be missed but never forgotten.

snowdog said:
Have been VERY tempted to get Ninja Gaiden 3 myself but got waaaay to much of a Wii U backlog at the moment.

Tell me about it, everytime i tell myself no more games, then i call in to a store to see whats going down, and see yet another great Wii U deal. I have over 30 Wii U games now, oh well it still wont stop me from getting Arkham Blackgate next month.

PS are you a Miiverse user? I would like to add you, i like your level headed posts you talk sense.



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MikeRox said:
baloofarsan said:

You live in the UK and you are abel to connect to the internet? Have you not heard of internet sales sites like Amazon or Game? Those prices, they have had them for a while already.

 

 OT If you think £30 is fantastic then you will love £39,85 for MK8 preorder deliverd free.

 

And if your fond of RRP you are welcome to Sweden.


I buy on the high street as much as possible out of principal. Especially won't buy from Amazon unless they're a last resort as their prices are through tax avoidance. I see Wii U Party is £5.00 more than I paid on the high street despite the retailer I purchased from paying it's staff a fair wage and helping support local employment. So I don't really get your point? 

What is this about tax avoidance? On my orders they claim to pay 25% VAT.

This is from my last order.

Item Subtotal: £54.99

Delivery & Handling: £0.00

Total Before VAT: £54.99

VAT: £13.75

Order Total: £68.74 

 

I have not heard much bad about Amazon and I try to be a conscious consumer. Please tell me more about Amazon.

 



The Wii U is indeed a lost cause and we already talked about it a hundred times in the countless "Wii U is doomed" threads.

Hooray for you though, you found that game at half the price in a sale. that must mean prices of all Nintendo games are going down right? Specially if the retailer from your neighborhood is the one doing it since that is the center of the universe.



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Anfebious said:
The Wii U is indeed a lost cause and we already talked about it a hundred times in the countless "Wii U is doomed" threads.

Hooray for you though, you found that game at half the price in a sale. that must mean prices of all Nintendo games are going down right? Specially if the retailer from your neighborhood is the one doing it since that is the center of the universe.


So you believe it's just a Wii U thing, and normality for Nintendo pricing will be restored once Nintendo release their next system and their games will hold their full prices again?

Note that this thread also cites multiple other nationwide retailers who have also reduced donkey kong similarly. Not that Toukiden/Sorcery Saga/Ys: Memories of Celceta still cost full price on Vita, whose software sales are even worse than Wii Us so far in the UK in 2014.

You do realise that this did not happen with the GameCube right? Super Mario Sunshine etc all held their retail prices for much of the lifespan of the system, despite the GCN actually faring as bad, if not worse from a hardware sales perspective as the Wii U currently is in the UK.

The threads you refer to, talk purely about hardware, I'm not interested in that, I believe a system can still be perfectly viable without being anywhere near market leader, so long as there is a market for the software. At the moment, it's looking like there isn't even a market for software on Wii U.

The whole dismissive approach of your post, is just as bad as the opposite types of posts. There is a new trend here and it's getting lost under the fanboy tit for tat nonsense.



RIP Dad 25/11/51 - 13/12/13. You will be missed but never forgotten.

baloofarsan said:

What is this about tax avoidance? On my orders they claim to pay 25% VAT.

This is from my last order.

 

Item Subtotal: £54.99

Delivery & Handling: £0.00

Total Before VAT: £54.99

VAT: £13.75

Order Total: £68.74 

 

I have not heard much bad about Amazon and I try to be a conscious consumer. Please tell me more about Amazon.

 

 

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/jul/19/oecd-tax-reform-proposals-amazon
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22549434

Also on a working conditions standpoint:

http://www.channel4.com/news/anger-at-amazon-working-conditions



RIP Dad 25/11/51 - 13/12/13. You will be missed but never forgotten.

MikeRox said:
BuckStud said:

I find it interesting that these threads are almost always started by someone with a pro Playstation signature.  What's wrong, bored because you don't have anything new to play?


If you show me where I can get a signature that also reflects the Wii U and 3DS games I play please link me.

I think you'll find my Wii U collection is far bigger than my PS4 collection (even more so having bought these Wii U titles and recently sold AC4 on PS4) for obvious reasons and I also have 2 LE 3DS systems. This is my current 8th gen collection:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=178892&page=1

Though I've now added a couple more 3DS titles.

I find it interesting that it's impossible to voice concern about anything Nintendo related without someone accusing you of being a fanboy of a particular brand and being bored from having nothing to play. I'm sure you can see I already have plenty to play. It's just an observation I have made having been gaming for nearly 30 years. Most of that time spent on Nintendo software. It's a shame I can't link to my club nintendo account to show you just how much money Nintendo have had from me over the past decade.


Nice collection, dude! You're going to make me go dig up my NES collection and post a pic :)



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Shigeru Miyamoto