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zorg1000 on 28 February 2014
sabastian said:
TheLegendaryWolf said:
sabastian said:
Here's and idea for you.

(1) Go out and purchase a Playstation 3.
(2) Experience all the wonderful ip's that the Playstation 3 has to offer. The Last Of Us, Puppeteer, Guacamelee, Uncharted 3, Wipeout, Beyond Two Souls, Enslave, 3D DOT Games Heroes, Starhawk.
(3) Unplug from EVERYTHING NINTENDO, and never look back.............


So no more Super Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Xenoblade, Legend of Zelda, Kirby, Metroid, Donkey Kong, Mario, F-Zero, Bayonetta 2, X, Yoshi, Fire Emblem, Pokemon, Pikmin, or Star Fox? How about having best of both brands?

I will say this. And please dont take this the wrong way.

Smash Bros has done almost nothing to change the formula. Its almost just a roster upgrade. And even in that, its more of the same too.

Mario Kart seems to be taking a few tidbits from F-Zero, Wipeout and Sonic Racing Transrofmed, so Im ok with the changes incoming for this title.

Xenoblade is pretty safe bet to excite fans.

Zelad. Again, Bombs to open walls, find the bow and arrow somewhere in the map, Theres gonna be a bommerang as well, link does not use voice overs, a spin attack. Rince wash repeat. 

Kirby has lost its flair over the past game or so. Its better Nintendo keeps it to the handhelds.

Metroid would do well with classic controls. Only if Nintendo does not make it 1st person and not too much of a fetch/ scan quest. Really, the worst thing about metroid prime was having to scan every damb thing. Got real booring.

Donkey Kong TF LOOKS EXACTLY like DK country. Put those games side by side and most gamers would not know they were on different systems. Same map layout, same sidekicks (sans kranky), same machanics. Copy paste repeat.

Mario. Listen carefully. THERE ARE TOO MANY MARIO GAMES. Mario Sticker star, Super Mario U, Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Mario Kart, Paper Mario, Mario and Sonic. There is no reason for a Super Mario Wii-U and Super Luigi Wii-U. NONE. They both look and play the same. New Super Mario 3D World is just another copy paste of SMW in 3D. 

Im going to stop there cause my point is, Nintendo needs to stop being safe and take chances. Release new ip's. Pikmin W101 & were the last real new and exciting games that Nintendo has released in years. And fact is, there reall just ok games. Nintendo fans also have to take a stand. I love me some old franchises just like the other guy, but if you guys/gals keep buying these copy paste games, Nintendo will only continue to keep releasing them. I play on Playstation and 1 thing that I am certin of and has been for the last 10 or so years is that the Playstation brand will always release new and unique ip's. 

Japan Studios, Naughty Dog Uncharted,Zipper Interactive Socom, Evolution Motorstorm,  Insomniac Ratchet & Clank,S.O.E.,  SantaMonica StudiosGod Of War, Media Molicule LBP, Studio Liverpool Wipeout, Sucker Punch inFamous, Polyphony Digital Gran Turismo, Guerrilla Games Killzone,  Sony Bend Sypon Filter. 

These are some of the reasons that I support the Playstation, that and I will always get if not all 3rd party titles released on a console powerful enough to run current gen games. 

Nintendo makes great games, the problem is that they have not CREATED a NEW experience in a long LONG time. 

Time for change my friend.

I respect ur opinion and agree with u to an extent but I hope u realize basically the entire industry is guilty of the same thing.There have been 4 Uncharted games since 2007, what drastic changes have occurred? What about God of War, 6 games in 9 years with minor changes. How are the latest Killzone/Ratchet/Gran Turismo different from previous installments? The same goes for Halo/Madden/FIFA/Assassins Creed/Forza/Call of Duty/Battlefield/Splinter Cell/Tekken/Soul Calibur/Final Fantasy/Street Fighter/Resident Evil/Dragon Quest/Monster Hunter/Tales/Far Cry and many others. What major changes have these games had in the last 5-10 years?

I dont get how u can critisize Nintendo for something Sony/Microsoft/EA/Activision/Namco/Ubisoft/Capcom/Square do as well.



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kekrot on 28 February 2014
Pavolink said:

Every time I see my Wii U I imagine all those games Nintendo could have developed with outstandings graphics, effects, and new gameplay. Then, I got depressed looking at what we are getting.


I agree, while Wii U games are fun as always I don't really play much of them after I have finished the story or collected something. NSMBU, Pikmin 3, 3D World and Tropical Freeze are really great designed games, but we've seen it all before on Wii. Maybe not 3D World, but we saw that on 3DS two years ago, and I didn't think it was as good as the general opinion seems to hold it.

Although I hope that some of the best gaming can offer is still ahead of us. Who knows.



Yep.

Scizor_99 on 28 February 2014
morenoingrato said:

God damn it give it a rest already.

Metroid does not exist, nor would it have helped the WiiU. DK is a franchise that appeals only to Nintendo fans as we saw with several impressions. DK bombed thanks to the WiiU. *There was NOTHING wrong with developing it*

 

It's all the WiiU's fault and Nintendo's lack of vision and marketing.

Deal with it.

Metroid would have filled a void for first-person action games on the Wii U. DK is the third first-party release that is a platformer. Even if Metroid didn't help the Wii U very much, it would most likely help it more than DK.



Mr Khan on 28 February 2014
Carl2291 said:
Mr Khan said:

The people defending EA are trolling is the long and short of my belief, that their decision to back out was made before they got any results in (Need for Speed was just too far in to kill off, unlike Crysis 3, and props to Criterion for finishing it, but EA also refused to support it with DLC). The people who defend EA either don't get what went on, or do get it and are just trolling. There is no honest defense for them otherwise.

EA's sidemouthed statements trying to justify their horseshit make me want to punch someone.

So, yeah. This is why i don't want to talk about it. Just makes me insult people and then get madder from there.

Thats bullshit about Crysis 3. It was up and running on Wii U and Crytek said it was very close to launching. It was purely a business decision to not release it... You could probably argue that it was further along in development than Need for Speed too when you consider Crysis was actually supposed to release in February 2013.

If you really think that people are just trolling, then I think that you quite clearly arent getting it. Did you evenr ead what I just put?

Carl2291 said:

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/06/14/ea-wii-us-lack-of-madden-fifa-a-rational-business-decision/

Nintendo -

"They want what all third parties want and what we want: for the install base to grow"

"We're confident that once some of these games come out that we have planned between now and the holiday and into 2014, that it will help drive the install base and when that happens the platforms will look more enticing to third parties."

EA -

"Look, the only thing they can do to fix it is to sell more boxes. We're a rational company, we go where the audience is. We publish games where we think we can make a great game and hit a big audience, and make money."

"In fact, the last Need for Speed shipped 60 days ago had a pretty good Metacritic. It was a good game. It wasn't a schlocky port, we actually put extra effort into getting everything to work. And it's just not selling because there's no boxes."

"If it becomes a viable platform from an audience standpoint, we'll jump back in."

Both EA and Nintendo seemingly recognise the problem, why cant you? Its not only affecting 3rd party software, its apparently starting to harm Nintendo software also (and thus Nintendo's profits). The userbase isnt there. Nintendo are struggling to create a userbase. 3rd parties dont want to develop on it because of the lack of a userbase. The only real hope for the system is that a cut, alongside Kart/Smash, will inject new life into Wii U. If things stay as they are doing, you can kiss Gamecube numbers goodbye.

Both EA and Nintendo, in seperate interviews, talk about why EA arent currently on Wii U.

Fuck. EA are still developing for the Wii. They released FIFA 14 for the Wii, Khan. They released FIFA 14 for 3DS. Hell, they released it for the PSP of all things. Theyre running a business. If they wanted rid of Nintendo, they wouldnt still be surporting Nintendo platforms with the "roster updates" that hundreds of thousands of people are willing to buy.

The Wii U isnt a financially viable platform. They are under no obligation to develop games for Wii U when the userbase simply isnt there and its growing at an incredible rate on other, more powerful platforms. This isnt trolling, its stating facts - The Wii U currently isnt a financially viable platform to develop for.

But that is NOT why EA stopped. That is the point.



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MTZehvor on 28 February 2014

I would argue it isn't a bomb. It certainly isn't going to sell as well as Returns (even with digital sales factored in), but it'll still sell fairly well. I hope no one seriously thought that it was going to sell as well as Returns.



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Carl on 28 February 2014
Mr Khan said:

But that is NOT why EA stopped. That is the point.


How do you know?

A Nintendo rep says that when the console sells more, support will improve. An EA rep in a seperate interview says that when the console sells more, they will probably go back.

I dont see why its so hard to accept. Drop the conspiraties. EA still develop for Nintendo, they just dont develop for Wii U.



                            

ZyroXZ2 on 28 February 2014

I should have known better than enter a thread with such a negative title, hahaha



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biglittlesps on 28 February 2014
Scizor_99 said:
Pavolink said:
Slarvax said:
I think you need to stop checking software sales and stuff like that. I've only see you make "doom" or "dissapointment" threads...
OP: Of course it's Nintendo's fault! There's no other to blame. They made the Wii U the most anticonsumer hardware I've ever seen.


There has not been anything to celebrate. Nothing.

You cannot expect positive threads when there's nothing positive.

If the next console gave us games with outstanding effects graphics and gameplay and it sell like no other console I'll be the first to celebrate. But now, you cannot ask anyone to be happy with the worst performance of a mainstream console ever to Nintendo.

I don't see you posting positive information about the 3DS, or Nintendo's plans to gradually change much of their business strategy (though we still need to wait and see what happens).  The Wii U's sales are pretty bad, but first-party software sales for both the Wii U and the 3DS are actually quite good considering how much people own those systems. Despite all the negative information surrounding Nintendo, first-party franchises have had decent legs despite moediocre openings. The biggest first-party releases continue to be recieved generally well by both media and fanbase alike.It doesn't mean that NIntendo is fine - far from it, in fact - but there still things to be happy about even in this rough spot for Nintendo. 

And as far as we know, DK might leg out very well over the course of the year. It won't move very much hardware, but I think it can do decently as far as software sales are concerned, especially considering that it is a known franchise.  After all, Super Mario 3D Flop didn't turn out too badly,

Nintendo did not make these games for software first and its meant for system sellers so they can increase install base to earn more profits by selling software. But, right now their software is selling very slowly even though it has legs which is not going to help them at all. They need to move more systems as soon as possible otherwise their efforts in Wii U go drain and will face a huge loss(right now 3DS balancing it but 3DS also declining this year so they can't depend on this anymore for future).



GAMING is not about spending hours to pass/waste our time just for fun,

its a Feeling/Experience about a VIRTUAL WORLD we can never be in real, and realizing some of our dreams (also creating new ones).

So, Feel Emotions, Experience Adventure/Action, Challenge Game, Solve puzzles and Have fun.

PlayStation is about all-round "New experiences" using new IP's to provide great diversity for everyone.

Xbox is always about Online and Shooting.

Nintendo is always about Fun games and milking IP's.

Scizor_99 on 28 February 2014
Pavolink said:
zippy said:
Its number 2 in global software sales behind a game that is given away for free, hardly a bomb. Have you turned your attention to Donkey Kong because 3D World served you a nice helping of crow.


3D World is far off the other 3D Marios and didn't move consoles. Sorry.


Are you sure? The media was very positive about it and there was a lot of talk about it on the Internet. How do you think the Wii U would have sold last Christmas without that game?



Werix357 on 28 February 2014

The Wii U was treated more like an adition by Nintendo rather than a new console hence all the Wii U games replacating experiences from games that Nintendo have allready released on the 3DS and Wii.
Who ever made this decision at Nintendo should step down.