BraLoD said: February 2015. (I think I have give this answer a lot of times and I doubt I did the same prediction everytime, lol, don't believe me too much).

Thats crazy WiiU will be way over 2mil by years end, ps4 to do 2mil in 1 year? Vita had done that in barely 2 years

I say it won't, simply because home consoles are dying in Japan and the best I think PS4 can do on a weekly basis once some Japan-centric games come out is to match what Wii U is selling.

BraLoD said: tbone51 said: BraLoD said: February 2015. (I think I have give this answer a lot of times and I doubt I did the same prediction everytime, lol, don't believe me too much). Thats crazy WiiU will be way over 2mil by years end, ps4 to do 2mil in 1 year? Vita had done that in barely 2 years I hope for a good TGS to Sony to really boost their sales, and Vita numbers are not a good point to base yourself with, lol.

Why not? Vita is outpacing ps4 in the same time frame?

There are alot of blind sony fans if they think ps4 will overtake wii u in 2015 or 2016! Wii u has a 1.2 million lead in japan and despite all the launch hype has outsold ps4 for a month now.Launch hype is still in effect for the ps4 in other markets but has died in japan. Simply put there's no games worth buying a ps4 and a drought still in effect and console sales are slow there ps4 only sold 7k last week thats lower than the ps3 if this happened in other markets ps4 is doomed threads would pop up everywhere!And this talk about games coming is weak did any one watch e3 wii u will have a monster 2015 and has games coming this year more big titles than sony this year and next. Quit comparing it to the rest of the world japan is a different market wii u gets games there that we dont see here like dragon quest and yukuza. So unless a miracle happens 2017 is possible but I think japan will be nintendos this gen with portables so big there remote play is just as good at home!!!

When the last guardian is remastered for PS4

AAA300 said: There are alot of blind sony fans if they think ps4 will overtake wii u in 2015 or 2016! Wii u has a 1.2 million lead in japan and despite all the launch hype has outsold ps4 for a month now.Launch hype is still in effect for the ps4 in other markets but has died in japan. Simply put there's no games worth buying a ps4 and a drought still in effect and console sales are slow there ps4 only sold 7k last week thats lower than the ps3 if this happened in other markets ps4 is doomed threads would pop up everywhere!And this talk about games coming is weak did any one watch e3 wii u will have a monster 2015 and has games coming this year more big titles than sony this year and next. Quit comparing it to the rest of the world japan is a different market wii u gets games there that we dont see here like dragon quest and yukuza. So unless a miracle happens 2017 is possible but I think japan will be nintendos this gen with portables so big there remote play is just as good at home!!!

Because naturally Sony would show its japan centric games at E3 and not TGS, that is completely ignoring the fact that Sony has still only shown 1 game that is scheduled for after summer 2015 and that's because that game's huge and was a great way to end the conference, Sony are not announcing too far ahead right now, but people seem to forget this. Also how is the Wii U going to have a monster 2015 in Japan? Zelda isn't nearly as big over there as it is in the west, the first Xenoblade game didn't really do much either, what else is there? Splatoon, Kirby, Yoshi, Mario Maker, Devil's Third? None of those are huge hardware movers.

And the Wii U got one DQ game that was already on Wii and a remake of the first 2 Yakuza games, that's it. I really don't see all those games the Wii U supposedly gets in Japan that don't come to the west.

I'm not sure yet. The Japanese aren't embracing the PS4 as much as western countries are. I'm guessing it's because there aren't a ton of games that appeal to the Japanese market yet. I'm betting sales skyrocket in Japan when MGSV comes out.

DerNebel said: AAA300 said: There are alot of blind sony fans if they think ps4 will overtake wii u in 2015 or 2016! Wii u has a 1.2 million lead in japan and despite all the launch hype has outsold ps4 for a month now.Launch hype is still in effect for the ps4 in other markets but has died in japan. Simply put there's no games worth buying a ps4 and a drought still in effect and console sales are slow there ps4 only sold 7k last week thats lower than the ps3 if this happened in other markets ps4 is doomed threads would pop up everywhere!And this talk about games coming is weak did any one watch e3 wii u will have a monster 2015 and has games coming this year more big titles than sony this year and next. Quit comparing it to the rest of the world japan is a different market wii u gets games there that we dont see here like dragon quest and yukuza. So unless a miracle happens 2017 is possible but I think japan will be nintendos this gen with portables so big there remote play is just as good at home!!! Because naturally Sony would show its japan centric games at E3 and not TGS, that is completely ignoring the fact that Sony has still only shown 1 game that is scheduled for after summer 2015 and that's because that game's huge and was a great way to end the conference, Sony are not announcing too far ahead right now, but people seem to forget this. Also how is the Wii U going to have a monster 2015 in Japan? Zelda isn't nearly as big over there as it is in the west, the first Xenoblade game didn't really do much either, what else is there? Splatoon, Kirby, Yoshi, Mario Maker, Devil's Third? None of those are huge hardware movers. And the Wii U got one DQ game that was already on Wii and a remake of the first 2 Yakuza games, that's it. I really don't see all those games the Wii U supposedly gets in Japan that don't come to the west.

Few games are hardware movers for consoles in Japan but Hyrule Warriors is a good start, Sony showing Japan centric games doesn't mean Japan will up and buy the PS4 on impulse in fact this holiday PS3 will do well in Japan with P5 out, the games first have to be out and not many games stay in the charts in Japan for long. Many of those games not being as big in Japan as the west doesn't really matter when they're still sell well enough in Japan regardless. It's not as easy as showing FF in Japan as it was over a decade ago as even FF doesn't determine top console in Japan anymore.

I guess late 2015 or early 2016.

Wyrdness said: DerNebel said: Because naturally Sony would show its japan centric games at E3 and not TGS, that is completely ignoring the fact that Sony has still only shown 1 game that is scheduled for after summer 2015 and that's because that game's huge and was a great way to end the conference, Sony are not announcing too far ahead right now, but people seem to forget this. Also how is the Wii U going to have a monster 2015 in Japan? Zelda isn't nearly as big over there as it is in the west, the first Xenoblade game didn't really do much either, what else is there? Splatoon, Kirby, Yoshi, Mario Maker, Devil's Third? None of those are huge hardware movers. And the Wii U got one DQ game that was already on Wii and a remake of the first 2 Yakuza games, that's it. I really don't see all those games the Wii U supposedly gets in Japan that don't come to the west. Few games are hardware movers for consoles in Japan but Hyrule Warriors is a good start, Sony showing Japan centric games doesn't mean Japan will up and buy the PS4 on impulse in fact this holiday PS3 will do well in Japan with P5 out, the games first have to be out and not many games stay in the charts in Japan for long. Many of those games not being as big in Japan as the west doesn't really matter when they're still sell well enough in Japan regardless. It's not as easy as showing FF in Japan as it was over a decade ago as even FF doesn't determine top console in Japan anymore.

I never said that people would up and go buy a PS4 as soon as they announced more japan centric games, I said that just because they haven't shown the japanese games, doesn't mean that they won't show and release a bunch in 2015, wait for TGS.

The thing about Japan is that you need a steady stream of games that appeal to the market to sell, and that's the problem for Nintendo, thanks to their lack of 3rd party support on the Wii U, they'll have an extremely hard time to achieve that steady stream. It's always one game every couple months and that's simply not enough, especially if the games just aren't big sellers in Japan.