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Forums - Gaming - When Will PS4 Surpass WiiU in Japan? (If it does)

Wyrdness on 30 June 2014
DerNebel said:
Wyrdness said:
DerNebel said:

Because naturally Sony would show its japan centric games at E3 and not TGS, that is completely ignoring the fact that Sony has still only shown 1 game that is scheduled for after summer 2015 and that's because that game's huge and was a great way to end the conference, Sony are not announcing too far ahead right now, but people seem to forget this. Also how is the Wii U going to have a monster 2015 in Japan? Zelda isn't nearly as big over there as it is in the west, the first Xenoblade game didn't really do much either, what else is there? Splatoon, Kirby, Yoshi, Mario Maker, Devil's Third? None of those are huge hardware movers.

And the Wii U got one DQ game that was already on Wii and a remake of the first 2 Yakuza games, that's it. I really don't see all those games the Wii U supposedly gets in Japan that don't come to the west.


Few games are hardware movers for consoles in Japan but Hyrule Warriors is a good start, Sony showing Japan centric games doesn't mean Japan will up and buy the PS4 on impulse in fact this holiday PS3 will do well in Japan with P5 out, the games first have to be out and not many games stay in the charts in Japan for long. Many of those games not being as big in Japan as the west doesn't really matter when they're still sell well enough in Japan regardless. It's not as easy as showing FF in Japan as it was over a decade ago as even FF doesn't determine top console in Japan anymore.

I never said that people would up and go buy a PS4 as soon as they announced more japan centric games, I said that just because they haven't shown the japanese games, doesn't mean that they won't show and release a bunch in 2015, wait for TGS.

The thing about Japan is that you need a steady stream of games that appeal to the market to sell, and that's the problem for Nintendo, thanks to their lack of 3rd party support on the Wii U, they'll have an extremely hard time to achieve that steady stream. It's always one game every couple months and that's simply not enough, especially if the games just aren't big sellers in Japan.



The Wii didn't have a steady stream of games yet that still murdered every console in the country, fact is it's not that simple Japan seems to me like a region where people only really buy games they'll play over and over again hence why a lot of JRPGs, party games and Nintendo's first party are so popular there. People are comparing Japan to how things happen in the west when it couldn't be any further, if you look at the 6th gen before the HD era gaming was a lot different in the type of games that were popular while after the HD era the type of games driving the market were far different with much more yearly releases and so on while the developers making the type of games that the Japanese mass market are drawn to started going off into another direction. The only place were the type of games are still coming out in significant number is on the 3DS, the eastern market from what I can gather don't mind change but still need a touch of the core elements of a series to keep them interested which is why DQ is so consistent over there.

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Smear-Gel on 30 June 2014
DerNebel said:
Wyrdness said:
DerNebel said:

Because naturally Sony would show its japan centric games at E3 and not TGS, that is completely ignoring the fact that Sony has still only shown 1 game that is scheduled for after summer 2015 and that's because that game's huge and was a great way to end the conference, Sony are not announcing too far ahead right now, but people seem to forget this. Also how is the Wii U going to have a monster 2015 in Japan? Zelda isn't nearly as big over there as it is in the west, the first Xenoblade game didn't really do much either, what else is there? Splatoon, Kirby, Yoshi, Mario Maker, Devil's Third? None of those are huge hardware movers.

And the Wii U got one DQ game that was already on Wii and a remake of the first 2 Yakuza games, that's it. I really don't see all those games the Wii U supposedly gets in Japan that don't come to the west.


Few games are hardware movers for consoles in Japan but Hyrule Warriors is a good start, Sony showing Japan centric games doesn't mean Japan will up and buy the PS4 on impulse in fact this holiday PS3 will do well in Japan with P5 out, the games first have to be out and not many games stay in the charts in Japan for long. Many of those games not being as big in Japan as the west doesn't really matter when they're still sell well enough in Japan regardless. It's not as easy as showing FF in Japan as it was over a decade ago as even FF doesn't determine top console in Japan anymore.

I never said that people would up and go buy a PS4 as soon as they announced more japan centric games, I said that just because they haven't shown the japanese games, doesn't mean that they won't show and release a bunch in 2015, wait for TGS.

The thing about Japan is that you need a steady stream of games that appeal to the market to sell, and that's the problem for Nintendo, thanks to their lack of 3rd party support on the Wii U, they'll have an extremely hard time to achieve that steady stream. It's always one game every couple months and that's simply not enough, especially if the games just aren't big sellers in Japan.

I never get how people act like Nintendo isnt making steps to increasing the number of games in the future. Eh.