yes it can but nobody is gonna do it, there is no market for it anymore, as long as it looks great, its just not gonna be pushing any console to its limits.

You've got to be lying. Xenoblade is way more demanding than Twilight Princess and Wind Waker.

Back then, I could run Wind Waker in 1080p locked at its native 30fps on a Q9300, HD 5770, and 4GB of 1033mhz DDR3 setup. That build didn't fare as well with Twilight Princess, and even less so with Xenoblade.

There's still a market for cartoon games on Wii U; the right dev could push that system with one.

Screenshots don't do justice to its 60fps beauty on a screen through component cables, but let's look at one anyway:

As you can see here, every surface has multilayered shaders; the floor is reflective, refractive, and specular mapped, as is the glass and water, character models are specular mapped, the cylinder in the background is normal mapped, the jetpack causes heat distortion, there's global dyanmic lighting, and it all runs at a v-sync'd 60fps.

No other Wii game so effectively leverages the strengths of its GPU.

You're missing the point. The fact that you see this as "camps" and treat it like some kind of high school clique war shows you're taking all this far too seriously, and you're making the forums a less pleasant place with your hostility. And you're projecting; it's you who feels the need to try to turn this in to some kind of passive aggressive mud flinging session at every opportunity.

The secret dev article cannot be considered gospel behind the veil of anonymity, but some of what is said tallies with what named developers have stated. So while it is not as reliable a source as a named dev, some of its claims seem to be believable, even if others are unsubstantiated. 

Trine 2 is the best technical example so far, (It's confirmed to be beyond PS3/360's capabilities) but it is not pushing the system's limits, because it's a launch title not made from the ground up. No game made for Wii U so far is pushing its limits, because there are no graphically ambitious ones built from the ground up yet.

Think about it; how many consoles were maxed out in their first 16 months?

If you'd read my posts you'd know I have NEVER claimed that Wii U will become 1080p standard. I believe as a I always have; that  (A) Wii U's larger RAM and more modern GPU will allow it to produce games with improved textures and polish over PS3/360, similar to, say, the Gamecube/Xbox's advantage over PS2, and (B) that Wii U's graphics will improve with time, just like any console, so what we've seen so far is not its full power.

And the idea that generations are defined by huge graphical leaps died a decade ago.

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Why not? Equivalent PC graphics cards with similar power were already pushing visuals beyond what the 360/PS3 were doing and are more or less in line with the WiiU's graphics. That's discounting the added benefit of optimisations that devs have with a fixed platform.

I find this very funny myself, especially when you bold the 352 gflops part, i mean you look at the 360/ps3 specs and the exclsuives like halo 4, uncharted 3, last of us, forza horizone and god of war 3 easily look better then baynetta 2, 3d mario world, and mario kart, but he can't undertsand how a 1.5x more powerful gpu, 2x the ram and 3 times the edram, can run those games, he's got to be a using some mario mushrooms, i can maybe understand if he said 176gflops gpu but not 352gflops gpu thats way more effeciante, even though neogaf already posted the confirmed specs, and he posts at neogaf so he knows that posting false infromation thats not back up by proof will get you permabanned quick on neogaf.

Don't you have anything better to do with yourself, Ninjablade?

If they're on par technically, why is Wind Waker much, much easier to emulate on Dolphin compared to Twilight Princess?

Will you say it's the emulator's fault?

Because emulation isn't the same as a target machine?

You need to understand emulation before you jump to conclusions.
For instance one instruction on the Wii may be required to be split up into 3-4 or more instructions on the machine doing the emulating, some instructions may only need to be split up into two instructions.
That's also one of the reasons why emulating a game on the PC requires orders of magnitude increases in performance in comparison to the native device to even pull it off.

It also means that Wind Waker may be using more instructions that are easier to emulate, it's not solid proof either way that one game is more demanding than the other.

So no it's not the emulators fault at all, it's the general principle of emulating that's at fault in this regard and there is no possible way around it.

If you want a modern big budget and relatively demanding (For an Unreal Engine powered game!) cel shaded game, look no farther than Borderlands, despite it using the Unreal Engine 3 engine it's still looks better and is more demanding than Unreal Tournament 3, Gears of War, Bioshock 1+2, Brothers in Arms, Medal of Honor, Mass Effect etc' etc' on the PC.