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Rogerioandrade on 21 February 2014
Munkeh111 said:
Is it just me or everything really low?

Even the "mighty" PS4 isn't doing anything that special. We need some more games!


Yep, everythings really low. The 3ds seems to be the only one to have stable sales.

People keep saying about stock issues but I don´t think this is the case...... because consoles sales have been down YOY for 5 years now. It´s just that people insist in ignoring this fact.



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Kane1389 on 22 February 2014
POE said:
Kane1389 said:
POE said:
Console.... industry..... dying.....
This model does not work, wake up people!!


Its amazing that even after GTA and PS4 launch some people are still saying this crap.

 

If by 'this model' you mean including an expensive gimmick into the package in a desperate attemp to draw in casuals while at the same time you disregard and degrade stuff that is actually important to the customers, then yea, this model most certanly doesnt work.

It's really only MS and Nintendo that are falling behind, PS4 looks like it might be the best selling gaming system of all times

You know what? you are totally right and im wrong!!! How could i´ve been so blind. The gaming industry is healthy. We can play one GTA every 3 years and meanwhile some indie games in the best selling console of all time.

What indie game is the best selling console game of all times?



POE on 22 February 2014
Kane1389 said:
POE said:
Kane1389 said:
POE said:
Console.... industry..... dying.....
This model does not work, wake up people!!


Its amazing that even after GTA and PS4 launch some people are still saying this crap.

 

If by 'this model' you mean including an expensive gimmick into the package in a desperate attemp to draw in casuals while at the same time you disregard and degrade stuff that is actually important to the customers, then yea, this model most certanly doesnt work.

It's really only MS and Nintendo that are falling behind, PS4 looks like it might be the best selling gaming system of all times

You know what? you are totally right and im wrong!!! How could i´ve been so blind. The gaming industry is healthy. We can play one GTA every 3 years and meanwhile some indie games in the best selling console of all time.

What indie game is the best selling console game of all times?

You didn´t get the point.



Kane1389 on 22 February 2014
fatslob-:O said:
riecsou said:


 

y it does need to worry about it's image ... Just because your at the top spot doesn't mean your out of the rat race just yet ...

All system doing bad =/= PS4 doing amazing


But the PS4 isn't doing bad, It had a better first January than the 360 or PS3 and is on track to beat them both in February.

First January

X360: 518,227

PS3: 380,096

PS4: 696,505

XOne: 301,214

February

X360: 330,928

PS3: 240,586

PS4: 282,793 (as of 2/15)

XOne: 101,702 (as of 2/15)

Can we stop with the baseless doom and gloom now?

Did it have a better first january than WII ?

You are trying too hard. The Wii enjoyed a full month of sales in Japan. And there is an article comparing total numbers for Wii and PS4 during the same period with Wii having Japan Sales and guess what PS4 was still ahead as of February 1st by 1 million. Here

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/251512/ps4-vs-wiivgchartz-gap-chartsjanuary-2014-update/ 

Those extra 1 million sales are from none other than the Sony fanbase. I want to know weekly numbers once the hype has died down. 



Kane1389 on 22 February 2014
POE said:
Kane1389 said:

You know what? you are totally right and im wrong!!! How could i´ve been so blind. The gaming industry is healthy. We can play one GTA every 3 years and meanwhile some indie games in the best selling console of all time.

What indie game is the best selling console game of all times?

You didn´t get the point.

What is your point?



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POE on 22 February 2014
Kane1389 said:
POE said:
Kane1389 said:

You know what? you are totally right and im wrong!!! How could i´ve been so blind. The gaming industry is healthy. We can play one GTA every 3 years and meanwhile some indie games in the best selling console of all time.

What indie game is the best selling console game of all times?

You didn´t get the point.

What is your point?

My point is that one big seller like GTA doesn`t sustain the industry. You need a lot "GTA`s" per year and saddenly thats not the case. In fact, the minority of the games dont make a profit, and thats why developers are closing their studios.



binary solo on 22 February 2014
pezus said:
Devil_Survivor said:
BreedinBull said:
Devil_Survivor said:
shanbcn said:
PS4 LTD will be 20 million by end of year.


Haha what? Sorry this is pure delusion. If your so confident of this let's make a bet any stakes you want. I say it won't sell 20 million by year's end.


Honestly, last year I would of said this guy was crazy. But seeing the PS4 somehow destroy all predictions almost anyone places on it, if it does hit 20 mil (not saying it will), I won't even be surpised.

I know beating out a lot of people's expections, however I looked up the PS2's numbers for a reference and it didn't 10 million until sometime in  march 2002. So based on that i really think it will hit 20 million by the end of 2014. 

What? If that were true, PS2 sales would be called mediocre.

20m is very possible by the end of the year. It all depends on how much they can produce. It should be around 7m by the end of March.

Maybe there's misunderstanding by those who think not a realistic figure.

20 mill LTD by 31 dec 2014 vs. 20 Million in calendar year 2014. PS4 needs to sell 15.8 milion consoles in 2014 to get to 20 million by the end of the year. That's doable. It's far far short of Wii's best years, and not far over PS3's best year. So 20 million LTD by the end of 2014 is realistic, albeit probably at the upper end of realistic.

If anyone thinks 20 million sold for the calendar year then that's a big stretch and highly unlikely.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

binary solo on 22 February 2014
POE said:
Kane1389 said:
POE said:
Kane1389 said:

You know what? you are totally right and im wrong!!! How could i´ve been so blind. The gaming industry is healthy. We can play one GTA every 3 years and meanwhile some indie games in the best selling console of all time.

What indie game is the best selling console game of all times?

You didn´t get the point.

What is your point?

My point is that one big seller like GTA doesn`t sustain the industry. You need a lot "GTA`s" per year and saddenly thats not the case. In fact, the minority of the games dont make a profit, and thats why developers are closing their studios.

The only way you can say the console gaming industry is in trouble from the consumer side is if you start getting loads of AAA (cost) 85+ meta games selling badly. If the industry shovels out sub-70 games at AAA development cost and expects to be proitable then the industry needs to take a long hard look at itself.

What sustains trhe industry is profitable games. Low cost games selling in the hundreds of thousands is sustainable. And if the industry can only afford to put out a few high cost games per year then that can also be sustainable. What's not sustainable is many high cost games tanking in sales. So the lesson there is make high cost games of good quality and with fairly broad appeal, or don't make high cost games. If studios spend loads of money on games people don't want to buy then they deserve to have their doors shut.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

Kane1389 on 23 February 2014
POE said:
Kane1389 said:
POE said:
Kane1389 said:

You know what? you are totally right and im wrong!!! How could i´ve been so blind. The gaming industry is healthy. We can play one GTA every 3 years and meanwhile some indie games in the best selling console of all time.

What indie game is the best selling console game of all times?

You didn´t get the point.

What is your point?

My point is that one big seller like GTA doesn`t sustain the industry. You need a lot "GTA`s" per year and saddenly thats not the case. In fact, the minority of the games dont make a profit, and thats why developers are closing their studios.


No, you dont need a lot of games that break 1 billion dollar revenue in 3 days, that's idiotic. Naughty Dog's Uncharted games are what you'd consider AAA in every regard, yet they are much less expensive to create (<20m$) and are always profitable.

If the product is good, it'll make a profit, if its not, it wont. Its the same basic concept in every single industry. But lets not kid ourselves. If Nintendo was on top, you'd be singing a very different tune.



POE on 23 February 2014
Kane1389 said:
POE said:
Kane1389 said:
POE said:
Kane1389 said:

You know what? you are totally right and im wrong!!! How could i´ve been so blind. The gaming industry is healthy. We can play one GTA every 3 years and meanwhile some indie games in the best selling console of all time.

What indie game is the best selling console game of all times?

You didn´t get the point.

What is your point?

My point is that one big seller like GTA doesn`t sustain the industry. You need a lot "GTA`s" per year and saddenly thats not the case. In fact, the minority of the games dont make a profit, and thats why developers are closing their studios.


No, you dont need a lot of games that break 1 billion dollar revenue in 3 days, that's idiotic. Naughty Dog's Uncharted games are what you'd consider AAA in every regard, yet they are much less expensive to create (<20m$) and are always profitable.

If the product is good, it'll make a profit, if its not, it wont. Its the same basic concept in every single industry. But lets not kid ourselves. If Nintendo was on top, you'd be singing a very different tune.

That´s not true at all.