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Forums - Sales - Global EVERYTHING Up! - Week ending Feb 15 (3DS on top - PS4 adjusted up - X1, Vita, WiiU duking it out - WiiU's last week #1?)

fatslob-:O said:
DerNebel said:
fatslob-:O said:
DerNebel said:
fatslob-:O said:

The market isn't growing ... It's retracting ...

Because it was artificially inflated by the Wii... what does that have to do with the PS4 doing well or not?

Depends on what you mean by the PS4 "doing well" because right now it's questionable at this point.

No, right now there's absolutely nothing questionable about that, the PS4 is doing very well, period.

Not by my standards or consumer standards. 

Fastest selling console in history isn't doing well? You must have some high standards.



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

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POE said:
DerNebel said:
fatslob-:O said:
DerNebel said:
fatslob-:O said:

No but that was back then when Sony had no following with the PS1 and there were supply issues with the PS2 while both were riding on GOOD macroeconomic trends but this time it's hard to sell a $400 console in this day and age. 

Looking at stock levels it doesn't seem hard to sell the PS4 at all. Seriously you need to stop comparing it to the Wii and then drawing conclusions from that, neither the PS1 nor PS2 sold as well as the Wii at the beginning, but they both outsold it because they managed to sell for a longer time, the same goes for the PS4, it is absolutely not necessary for it to reach weekly sales of the Wiis first year right now.

The market isn't growing ... It's retracting ...

Because it was artificially inflated by the Wii... what does that have to do with the PS4 doing well or not?

Wow... just wow...

He's not wrong, where are all those gamers that the Wii brought in? They moved on to the next big thing like smartphones and tablets. Sony brought in core gamers with the PS1 and PS2 and they have stayed in gaming. Most Wii gamers left a long time ago and have no interest in consoles. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

riecsou said:

Did it have a better first january than WII ?

You are trying too hard. The Wii enjoyed a full month of sales in Japan. And there is an article comparing total numbers for Wii and PS4 during the same period with Wii having Japan Sales and guess what PS4 was still ahead as of February 1st by 1 million. Here

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/251512/ps4-vs-wiivgchartz-gap-chartsjanuary-2014-update/ 

Those extra 1 million sales are from none other than the Sony fanbase. I want to know weekly numbers once the hype has died down.

Ok now I know you are doing this on purpose. So extra 1 million none other than Sony Fanbase???

Isn't this so obvious ? ... The launch of the PS4 is very front loaded.

So where were those over 100 millions Fanbase when the PS3 launched.

Almost none of the customers are dedicated to just one platform manufacturer. Hence why xbox profited off of son't mistakes.

And if Sony fanbase put PS4 today at 5.4 millions so what to say about Xbox One and Wii U fanbase??

It doesn't mean anything. It's mostly a trivial fact ...

And PS4 is currently the fastest selling console even compared to the Wii as of today and without Japan launch.

If it's truly the fastest selling then why didn't it beat the WIIs first january NPD numbers ? 

Tell me what more you need to know??

Are you done now ? 



Nintentacle said:
Now, we wait for tons of Xbox One doom articles.


Nah whole industry doom threads because the PS4 is apparently doing terrible compared with the Wii first year.

OT: Pretty bad sales since all the companies refused to price drop anything. Wii U $300 seems too much but is fine until it gets more SW. PS3 and 360 $200+ is too much with many SKUs over half the price of PS3. Vita $200 is too much when you have to buy memory cards.

 

FFXIII probably overtracked as it is a JRPG, but sold more then I expected.



POE said:
DerNebel said:
fatslob-:O said:

The market isn't growing ... It's retracting ...

Because it was artificially inflated by the Wii... what does that have to do with the PS4 doing well or not?

Wow... just wow...

What, wow? That makes perfect sense, the Wii pulled in tons of people that normally weren't interested in console games and that have by now almost entirely lost their interest in console gaming, what would you call that if not an artificial market inflation?



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Fusioncode said:
fatslob-:O said:
DerNebel said:
fatslob-:O said:
DerNebel said:
fatslob-:O said:

The market isn't growing ... It's retracting ...

Because it was artificially inflated by the Wii... what does that have to do with the PS4 doing well or not?

Depends on what you mean by the PS4 "doing well" because right now it's questionable at this point.

No, right now there's absolutely nothing questionable about that, the PS4 is doing very well, period.

Not by my standards or consumer standards. 

Fastest selling console in history isn't doing well? You must have some high standards.

That is what I have been trying to tell him lol.

I even point him to article where PS4 had a 1 million consoles lead over the Wii as of February 1st.

I even told him and that those Wii numbers had a whole month of January sales. Those numbers also had december sales for Japan and PS4 still has a 1 million leads with 0 consoles in Japan...

I m guessing his standard must be way over the roof... lmao



POE said:
kitler53 said:
POE said:
Aerys said:
POE said:
Console.... industry..... dying.....
This model does not work, wake up people!!


Lol, industry dying because it goes back to PS2 era ?

 

You seem to be obsessed with the PS2 era. 

With this gen prices, something like the PS2 era will destroy the videogame industry. Or do you seriously believe that third parties can survive with only one succesfull console?


one console with a large active userbase would be better than 3 consoles with a small active userbase each.  ports, unnessisary code branches, and the increased QA time associated with that will be eliminated once wiiU and xbone support are completely dropped increasing profitability by lowering development costs.  so as long as ps4's active user base > ps3 + 360 + wii's active userbase things will be coming up roses for third parties.

Hahaha. So you are saying monopoly is good for the industry?
Let me wake you up: Monopoly is the worst thing that could ever happen to ANY industry, because it´s the consumer who looses.

read what you wrote.

third parties developers != consumers.

 

..third party developers would be better off with 1 console than with 3 just like the movie industry was better off when HD DVD died.  and fragmentation isn't exactly great on consumers either you know.   imagine if you had to buy 3 phones to be able to communicate with all regions of the world.   and besides, we have presidence,.. the ps2 was the most awesome console ever created.



fatslob-:O said:
DerNebel said:
fatslob-:O said:

Depends on what you mean by the PS4 "doing well" because right now it's questionable at this point.

No, right now there's absolutely nothing questionable about that, the PS4 is doing very well, period.

Not by my standards or consumer standards. 

What freaking consumer standards? Also you should maybe think about your standards abit, here are the numbers for the same week for all consoles we've tracked here:

Wii: 216,776 ($250)

3DS: 194,084 ($170)

PS4: 124,314 ($400 and with stock clearly being withheld for the japanese launch)

360: 80,606

DS: 65,608

PS3: 53,197

PSP: 49,540

X1: 48,032

WiiU: 38,362

PSV: 16,704 (Japan only)

And you seriously believe that the PS4 isn't selling well?



random15 said:
ps4 5:1 X1 ration in europe DAMN!


That's Europe for you.

Japan better use dat stock or they go ASAP for US/EU I told you.





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Those extra 1 million sales are from none other than the Sony fanbase. I want to know weekly numbers once the hype has died down.

Ok now I know you are doing this on purpose. So extra 1 million none other than Sony Fanbase???

Isn't this so obvious ? ... The launch of the PS4 is very front loaded.

So where were those over 100 millions Fanbase when the PS3 launched.

Almost none of the customers are dedicated to just one platform manufacturer. Hence why xbox profited off of son't mistakes.

And if Sony fanbase put PS4 today at 5.4 millions so what to say about Xbox One and Wii U fanbase??

It doesn't mean anything. It's mostly a trivial fact ...

And PS4 is currently the fastest selling console even compared to the Wii as of today and without Japan launch.

If it's truly the fastest selling then why didn't it beat the WIIs first january NPD numbers ? 

Tell me what more you need to know??

Are you done now ? 


Oops somebody is mad and ignoring fact.

Fact 1:PS4 fastest selling console.  Which means when compared to other lauch in history in the same time frame it has sold most then any other console. I just posted you the link but I am guessing you would rather ignore it and try some spin of your own.

Why it didnt beat Wiis first January NPD?? I m guessing you at least read all those threads about PS4 being sold out everywhere and pretty fast. I know you are quickly going to say so was the Wii that only means that Wii had more stock in January then PS4 in january as they were both sold out.

And try not to contradict yourself, makes you look bad

"Almost none of the customers are dedicated to just one platform manufacturer" vs "Those extra 1 million sales are from none other than the Sony Fanbase"

If you need more clarification about fastest selling let me know