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POE on 20 February 2014
kitler53 said:
POE said:
Aerys said:
POE said:
Console.... industry..... dying.....
This model does not work, wake up people!!


Lol, industry dying because it goes back to PS2 era ?

 

You seem to be obsessed with the PS2 era. 

With this gen prices, something like the PS2 era will destroy the videogame industry. Or do you seriously believe that third parties can survive with only one succesfull console?


one console with a large active userbase would be better than 3 consoles with a small active userbase each.  ports, unnessisary code branches, and the increased QA time associated with that will be eliminated once wiiU and xbone support are completely dropped increasing profitability by lowering development costs.  so as long as ps4's active user base > ps3 + 360 + wii's active userbase things will be coming up roses for third parties.

Hahaha. So you are saying monopoly is good for the industry?
Let me wake you up: Monopoly is the worst thing that could ever happen to ANY industry, because it´s the consumer who looses.



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Welfare on 20 February 2014
GribbleGrunger said:
Adjustment table from ethomaz


So Xbone is still overtracked 168k in USA then. Please fix this ioi.



Won bet with t3mporary_126 - I correctly predicted that the Wii U's LTD at the end of 2014 would be closer to 9 million than 10 million. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6673287

POE on 20 February 2014
pezus said:
POE said:
Mummelmann said:
POE said:
Console.... industry..... dying.....
This model does not work, wake up people!!


And guess which manufacturer will contribute the most to the coming market contraction?

At least you seem to have faced the facts, which is good news I guess. I agree that the traditional model is going out of fashion, in several senses of the word.

The same manufacturer wich expanded it to insane levels.

By selling 100m consoles, less than two of Sony's consoles that came before? It didn't really expand the market, it just inflated it for a short while.


I wasn´t talking about the Wii.



Aerys on 20 February 2014
POE said:
kitler53 said:
POE said:
Aerys said:
POE said:
Console.... industry..... dying.....
This model does not work, wake up people!!


Lol, industry dying because it goes back to PS2 era ?

 

You seem to be obsessed with the PS2 era. 

With this gen prices, something like the PS2 era will destroy the videogame industry. Or do you seriously believe that third parties can survive with only one succesfull console?


one console with a large active userbase would be better than 3 consoles with a small active userbase each.  ports, unnessisary code branches, and the increased QA time associated with that will be eliminated once wiiU and xbone support are completely dropped increasing profitability by lowering development costs.  so as long as ps4's active user base > ps3 + 360 + wii's active userbase things will be coming up roses for third parties.

Hahaha. So you are saying monopoly is good for the industry?
Let me wake you up: Monopoly is the worst thing that could ever happen to ANY industry, because it´s the consumer who looses.

Not every consumer is a nintendo fan :p

 

The consumer wins at the contrary, because he doesnt have to own 3 consoles to get most of the games and better optimised games,  just one main console is enough, and if he wants 3 consoles, he'll get more exclusives because microsoft will have to make their own exclusives instead of buying them, win win situation for gamers.

It's better for the industry, the cost of developing 3-4 versions of a game on different hardwares ( thanks esram and less powerful console) )is too high.



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

POE on 20 February 2014
pezus said:
POE said:
pezus said:
POE said:
Mummelmann said:
POE said:
Console.... industry..... dying.....
This model does not work, wake up people!!


And guess which manufacturer will contribute the most to the coming market contraction?

At least you seem to have faced the facts, which is good news I guess. I agree that the traditional model is going out of fashion, in several senses of the word.

The same manufacturer wich expanded it to insane levels.

By selling 100m consoles, less than two of Sony's consoles that came before? It didn't really expand the market, it just inflated it for a short while.


I wasn´t talking about the Wii.

Oh. Then what was your point? There's no denying that most of the apparent "contraction" is due to Nintendo's recent fall from grace after enjoying a few short years at the top of everything.

3rd party publishers failing again and again to make a viable profit on Nintendo's consoles, while many of them enjoy massive successes on MS and Sony's.

Yet here you are saying MS and Sony are to blame. I don't get your logic.

Mummelman said that: And guess which manufacturer will contribute the most to the coming market contraction?

I was saying that this industry is dying for other reason: High costs.



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POE on 20 February 2014
Aerys said:
POE said:
kitler53 said:
POE said:
Aerys said:
POE said:
Console.... industry..... dying.....
This model does not work, wake up people!!


Lol, industry dying because it goes back to PS2 era ?

 

You seem to be obsessed with the PS2 era. 

With this gen prices, something like the PS2 era will destroy the videogame industry. Or do you seriously believe that third parties can survive with only one succesfull console?


one console with a large active userbase would be better than 3 consoles with a small active userbase each.  ports, unnessisary code branches, and the increased QA time associated with that will be eliminated once wiiU and xbone support are completely dropped increasing profitability by lowering development costs.  so as long as ps4's active user base > ps3 + 360 + wii's active userbase things will be coming up roses for third parties.

Hahaha. So you are saying monopoly is good for the industry?
Let me wake you up: Monopoly is the worst thing that could ever happen to ANY industry, because it´s the consumer who looses.

Not every consumer is a nintendo fan :p

 

The consumer wins at the contrary, because he doesnt have to own 3 consoles to get most of the games and better optimised games,  just one main console is enough, and if he wants 3 consoles, he'll get more exclusives because microsoft will have to make their own exclusives instead of buying them, win win situation for gamers.

It's better for the industry, the cost of developing 3-4 versions of a game on different hardwares ( thanks esram and less powerful console) )is too high.


How old are you?



Normchacho on 20 February 2014
fatslob-:O said:
Normchacho said:

You said that the numbers were "bad news for Sony" and they just aren't. Who's numbers are comparing the real numbers to? Who thought the PS4 was going to have a better January and February than the Wii? It sounds more like someone just preditced wrong than this being an issue for Sony.

When did I say that the numbers are bad news for Sony ? These numbers are half decent and it's falling out of our expectations. 


"This doesn't sound good for the PS4 ..." That was your first post on this thread. Which is equal in meaning to "This sounds bad for the PS4"

You've also yet to explain whos expectations the PS4 is falling short of.



Bet with Adamblaziken:

I bet that on launch the Nintendo Switch will have no built in in-game voice chat. He bets that it will. The winner gets six months of avatar control over the other user.

Normchacho on 20 February 2014
POE said:
Aerys said:
POE said:
kitler53 said:
POE said:
Aerys said:



Not every consumer is a nintendo fan :p

 

The consumer wins at the contrary, because he doesnt have to own 3 consoles to get most of the games and better optimised games,  just one main console is enough, and if he wants 3 consoles, he'll get more exclusives because microsoft will have to make their own exclusives instead of buying them, win win situation for gamers.

It's better for the industry, the cost of developing 3-4 versions of a game on different hardwares ( thanks esram and less powerful console) )is too high.


How old are you?


He could be 16 months old (which wouuld be amazing btw) and he would still be right. Maybe you should argue his points if you disagree instead of just attacking him. That would the mature, adult thing to do.



Bet with Adamblaziken:

I bet that on launch the Nintendo Switch will have no built in in-game voice chat. He bets that it will. The winner gets six months of avatar control over the other user.

Xevross on 20 February 2014
pezus said:
ryuzaki57 said:

Lightning Returns beats Bravery Default by leagues! Hope NDP confirm this...

That is one impressive gif. Sweet jesus.

Epic is the word that springs to mind!



http://vizioneck.com/

fatslob-:O on 20 February 2014
Normchacho said:
fatslob-:O said:
Normchacho said:

You said that the numbers were "bad news for Sony" and they just aren't. Who's numbers are comparing the real numbers to? Who thought the PS4 was going to have a better January and February than the Wii? It sounds more like someone just preditced wrong than this being an issue for Sony.

When did I say that the numbers are bad news for Sony ? These numbers are half decent and it's falling out of our expectations. 


"This doesn't sound good for the PS4 ..." That was your first post on this thread. Which is equal in meaning to "This sounds bad for the PS4"

You've also yet to explain whos expectations the PS4 is falling short of.

That's wrong but I can see people getting that expression so I should clarify there for moment to say that the PS4 isn't doing good or bad and is instead doing decent although with a slight balance towards the bad side.

It's fallen short of everyone's expectations on this forum seeing as how people are running around screeming undertracked which means that there's alot of panicking or their either damage controlling the situation at hand.