the2real4mafol said:
It would be too difficult to do that now.

1.  Currently you must use the gamepad to use your Wii U (you can't turn off the gamepad as it also turns the console off!) and every game supports it in some way.

2.  Doing a Wii U without a gamepad isn't as simple as you lot think.

3.  The gamepad was a part of the what drew me to Wii U as it made the console unique to the competition.

4.  Anyway, you lot can make as many threads on this as you like but Nintendo won't change a thing. Deal with it.

1.  No, you don't.  You can turn on the system and play Mario just fine with a Wiimote without touching the Gamepad.  Yes, the GP does turn on as well, but there's nothing that Ninty couldn't patch to fix any inconsistencies.  And unless you're talking about off-TV play, DKCTF says Hi with its black screen while you play.

2.  Why not?  The two main issues - splitting the userbase and the UI - are addressed in the OP, so what else is there?

3.  Fair enough for you personally, but it's sure not selling the console at the moment.  At least not at its current price, and Nintendo can't lower the price without dropping the GP.  And the console still has one big unique feature - Nintendo exclusives - just like the Gamecube did.  Difference is, GC was priced right... and so far, is tracking much higher in sales aligned.

4.  Lol, I'm still waiting for links to this massive abundance of "Should Ninty add a GP-less SKU" threads here on the Chartz.  Particularly from a Nintendo fan like myself who was a big advocate for not separating the GP until recently.  This "lot" would like to see evidence of this.

the2real4mafol said:

4.  Lol, I'm still waiting for links to this massive abundance of "Should Ninty add a GP-less SKU" threads here on the Chartz.  Particularly from a Nintendo fan like myself who was a big advocate for not separating the GP until recently.  This "lot" would like to see evidence of this.

U really expect someone to take the time to go back and find all the threads on this topic? They are exaggerating the number it has been brought up on multiple occassions every since Wii U started selling poorly around this time last year.

Absolutely.  Links or they didn't happen...

No, seriously, I'm sure there have been threads on this topic; probably more frequent around this time a year ago when the WiiU's sales really started to go south.  Heck, I probably commented in them myself and was no doubt steadfastly against the idea that I'm now proposing.

Truthfully though, I haven't seen any lately, nor do I remember any from people who were big Nintendo fans.  And as I went to great lengths to illustrate in my OP, despite really liking the Gamepad myself, I have had a change of heart on the matter when we face the inevitable and what needs to be done.  It's like a big XB1 fan stepping forward and announcing that they truly believe that Kinect should not be a mandatory inclusion - especially when they once thought the opposite.  I'd be more inclined to hear them out if they're actually a fan of the company and had their well being in mind rather than, say, someone on the other side of the fence.

What irks me are the people who accuse this of being a hate thread or the laughable "Deal with it" retort... as if I'm whining or bitching about it just to rile people up or something, lol.  Nintendo doing better is my concern, not trolling them, and I think that I clarified that sentiment in my OP enough to warrant a discussion that extends beyond that line of thinking.

Ya I dont recall when the last time this topic was brought up and personally I dont mind that its often repeated, its not like this is the only topic gets brought up over and over.

And u have to used to it by now that people will only read the title and comment, I mean really who has time to read the OP in this day and age?

Im in the same boat as u, I like the Gamepad just having it for off TV play/maps/inventory is enough for me but I can also see why someone would feel thats not enough to justify the higher price. I think Nintendo is going to try and push the upcoming NFC game as a killer app that needs the Gamepad so I think they should tough it out until then but if that fails to do much then I say make it optional.