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Which company has a bleaker future?

Sony 554 56.02%
 
Nintendo 198 20.02%
 
Why no MS...... 234 23.66%
 
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BeElite on 11 February 2014

Nintendo.

They are losing market share and have been on a slow road to irrelevance now decades long. What happand to Atari and Sega is happening to them, its a natural progression of the industry's to move on and past its forefathers. So all their billions will mean little. Nintendo is losing ground in the only market its in, that's rather dire.

PS just set all time records.

Sony can go to hell. Playstation will be just fine, i would LOVE for Sony to declare the big B and PS spun of to a separate brand. Or Samsung apple or google owned Im just fine with. PS don't need Sony, Sony desperately needs PS.



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Suke on 11 February 2014

Though Nintendo is completely is in the shitter with the Wii U, I'm not dumb enough to know how corporate finance work, and Sony been hurting for years. TVs too expensive, PS3 launch was a horror of a failure, Vita is pretty much nonexistent at the moment, the Vivo brand is dead, though the PS4 is moving units, it ain't much to hold the company.



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orniletter on 11 February 2014

Both are on precarious postitions right now

Both will be fine in the long run.



supernihilist on 11 February 2014

Sony as a Co.
PS division is OK for now, god knows for how long.
Nintendo is fine. One of their current product is a fail but their financials are strong. No worries by now.



tbone51 on 11 February 2014
Lawlight said:
Devil_Survivor said:
Lawlight said:
J_Allard said:
Sony, obviously.

If you look at it purely in a gaming market sense, Nintendo has billions to bleed through and a handheld market they dominate. Sony is in financial trouble and that could really affect their gaming division. Look at the losses they suffered with PS3 and even the start of the PS2 gen.

Outside of gaming, Nintendo still has billions of dollars in str8 cash homie sitting in the bank, so they are good. Sony could also be ok here. Even if they have to shed off every division but one, they make tons of money selling life insurance.


Nintendo went from having about $10B in 2008 to about $5.5B in the space of 5 years. Needless to say, this will only get worse unless they can come up with something new.

Sorry but, its not 5.5 billion is actually 8.6 billion not sure where you got that number from.

So, it dropped from $14B (if Reuters is to believed) to $8.6B... And dropping by the quarter...


no offense but everytime somebody gives you facts or says something by correcting your mistake you turn it around and still find a way to make it negative. You did it at least 5 times this thread alone.



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d21lewis on 11 February 2014

All signs point to Sony but since Nintendo is doomed, I'm gonna say Nintendo.



brighat on 11 February 2014

I sometimes wonder if the people here who claim to "love" video gaming secretly wish the entire industry would crash. Seems like a decent amount of video gamers like to talk about the doom and gloom in the industry over anything positive. Then again, it doesn't help when you look at the state of video gaming as a whole.



famousringo on 11 February 2014
vivster said:
Landguy said:
Sony for sure. They have multiple divisions and almost all of them are troubled...

Well Sony can at least lose the divisions that don't make any profit. Nintendo practically only has one division(if you go by their archaic stance that hardware and software belong together) so if that starts losing too much money it's over.

But the most important thing here is that none of those two will stop making consoles and games. If they go bancrupt there will be numerous investors standing by to keep up the business.


Archaic?

Did you know that the most valuable company on the planet is an integrated hardware/software vendor?

Did you know its largest software rivals are increasingly interested in becoming integrated hardware/software vendors?

Doesn't look to me like Nintendo is on the wrong side of history by staying integrated.

I'm not quite so convinced that investors will be lining up to buy console divisions, either. Lots of companies dream of using consoles as a trojan horse to take over the living room, but it hasn't happened yet. If fact it's a fickle market which has proven difficult to earn reliable profits in. The only reason MS isn't part of this discussion is because we all assume that they'll be willing to keep burning cash to stay in the game no matter what.

Meanwhile, the big screen in the living room is in very real danger of being conquered by a dozen smaller screens.



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Rogerioandrade on 11 February 2014
Suke said:
Though Nintendo is completely is in the shitter with the Wii U, I'm not dumb enough to know how corporate finance work, and Sony been hurting for years. TVs too expensive, PS3 launch was a horror of a failure, Vita is pretty much nonexistent at the moment, the Vivo brand is dead, though the PS4 is moving units, it ain't much to hold the company.


I do believe that Sony is in deeper trouble too. They´re losing money in many fronts and the videogame division alone isn´t enough to handle the entire company.  Now, if the videogame division can sustain itself as a separated company/business is another story.

It would be great if we could have a clear figure of which divisions are actually having losses, instead of just the company´s total.



Asdrendeluxe on 11 February 2014
fatslob-:O said:
zorg1000 said:
fatslob-:O said:
DevilRising said:
fatslob-:O said:
Obviously Nintendo ... I mean their profits from the 3DS is drying up fast while they have to ride on a console with absolutely no future to boot.

As for Sony they should have dropped their TV division ages ago instead of pouring in billions. It's good that they are separating themselves now but the damage has being done.


If you really believe that, then you obviously aren't really aware of the actual financial status of each company right now.

To be honest their both in trouble for the most part. The one who's in the least trouble is microsoft despite the fact that the xbox brand hasn't made them money yet. Nintendo's long term future is bleak because they serverely damaged their handheld brand. Sony's short term future looks bad because they have to restructure the company and add to the fact that they have being hit with massive losses in the past. From this point onwards Sony Electronics is no more and instead will be known as Sony Insurance due to the fact that it's their biggest money maker alongside with the entertainment division. 

Just because Nintendo has alot of money in their reserves doesn't mean that they won't lose it. What you keep in the race matters more and this time Nintendo will be dropping alot of money in due time. 


How has Nintendo damaged there handheld brand? Ya it wont come close to DS sales but is still on pace to do similar numbers to GBA (80 million or so).

Nintendo's 3DS is essentially a lot like the PS3 in many respects. They both represent a decline in brand. Both of them were damaged because it was overpriced. Both of those systems had worthless features to gaming such as bluray (Although it later became useful when games were starting to get massive early in this generation.) or 3D. Both of the systems had to be saved with price cuts and quality games later on. 

In short the 3DS is like nintendo's version of the PS3. 


Thej make profit with every  device thej sell. Second the Installbase is very good to sell Games and make profit. Iwata say it clearly the System make only money for us. Nintendo have never make 240 Dollar lose from selling a Console like PS3. When you believe this haha god help you. Third it must not sell 100 million 60 Million is nice 80 Million are fantastic, but thej make already money. Software is the kej to the sucess.



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