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etking said:
sethnintendo said:

It is all my fault. I should have bought shitty third party ports.

So true. Nobody buys 3rd party crap because Nintendo's own games are the best on any Nintendo plattform. http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/3ds?sort=desc&view=condensed

 

The article's author is spot on and your statement lends credibility to his argument in a big way.  He specifically stated that Nintend fanboys don't buy third party titles and that model is simply unsustainable when there is a diminishing amount of licensing revenue coming in which offsets the cost of the dedicated harware you love so much. His point is eventually the 1st party snobbery he has identified amongst the rabid fan base is slowly killing Nintendo like a cancer.

Okay maybe a bit harsh but sometime to save the patient a little hard truth is in order.

It is why Nintendo's consoles have gone from usually one of if not the most powerful (in terms of hardware specs) console of their respective generations to the least. Nintendo is cutting losses by making concessions on hardware specs.

It's not all bad news though. Eventually Nintendo will stop making home consoles and then turn their focus to just games and then you can buy a console that has fans who ARE willing to buy and play third party titles (as well as the ocassional Nintendo ip) which will subsidize your need exclusively play Nintendo games. Which will make Nintendo happy (and more profitable might I add) as well as the console developers (in this case Sony and MS) who will gladly take the licensing fees of those "shitty" 3rd party ports of Mario, Zelda and Metroid.

 

The article was total and utter truth.

 

 

 

By my count a MAJORITY of the games 75 or greater on the WiiU are third party titles. 3 of the top 5 are third party.



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Anfebious said:
I'll make a summary of the article for you guys!

The main problem seems to be that Nintendo fans don't buy enough third party support. That gives the signal to third parties that Nintendo's systems are not a platform where they should make games.

He also says that buying a Nintendo console for Nintendo games alone is being a close minded person. He also seems to dislike Pokemon, Mario and Zelda and enjoys third party games on Nintendo's systems. He is kind of an odd ball if you ask me.

In conclusion he thinks that Nintendo's current situation is not by Nintendo itself but because of it's fanboys.



Thanks for the summary. I wasn't going to read all that dribble.

I agree that alot of the fans nitpick little things jsut to jsutify not buying a game.  There are also those 3rd party games that make you go wtf so I have no issue with not buying those, howver people use those games as a bench mark to automatically dimiss all 3rd party games.

I for one also enjoy third party games more on my Nintendo system, mainly cause Nintendo takes ages to relase a game and they don't really have any games in genres I have always liked.



 

 

They are part of the problem.



Mr Khan said:
Galaki said:
Why would anyone buy a gimped version that's more expensive?
It's not Wii era anymore where they can release shovelwares to fund their half HD games.

That's something that's certainly overlooked. There'll be no more Game Party to shore up 2K's finances, for instance.


Im not sure if this has already been mentioned in this thread, but 3rd parties already have the replacement set up.

That replacement is Mobile.



                            

DerNebel said:
snyps said:

i know i'm a fanboy and all but did he really just compare ZeldaHd remake to ico/gow collection remake and call that a valid criticism? wtf he's a flaming sony fanboy.

 

FROM THE ARTICLE: Here’s an example of a valid criticism: “$50 is too much for any HD remake, especially when Sony gave us HD sets with multiple games for $40 on the PS3.”

 

just look at the gamecube price on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Video-Games-/139973/i.html?_from=R40&_sop=15&LH_BIN=1&_nkw=wind+waker+gamecube&_dcat=139973&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=2750

and then check out the ps2 ico price...

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Video-Games-/139973/i.html?_from=R40&LH_BIN=1&_sop=15&LH_ItemCondition=2750&_nkw=ico&_dcat=139973&Platform=Sony%2520PlayStation%25202&rt=nc

 

So aside from the fact that Windwaker is more valuable than the ps2 sets.   There was also more done to Celda than just adapting to HD such as gameplay enhancements, altered quests, added gamepad features... Clearly this article is written from someone that is not impartial.

Wow, you're doing exactly what the author said a fanboy would do, take something that deserves to be criticized and try to somehow justify it.

The fact that Wind Waker sells for that much on Ebay doesn't even come close to giving Nintendo a reason to sell the remake for $50. Also what does it matter if Nintendo did some extra stuff on the Wind Waker HD remake? It still took only 6 months to develop, they don't have to cover huge development costs for the game.

Nintendos choice to price the game at $50 is bullshit and does not need to be defended.


What? If you are going to sell a timeless masterpiece sell it for what it deserves. and don't let ppl compare it to ico or gow.



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I'd give it a "B-" for creativity and "F" for content. Kind of reminds of that SpurgeRyan thread where he is urging people to buy one third party game a month.

Yep, now Nintendo fans must do charity for multi-million dollar corporations.



snyps said:
aryu said:
snyps said:
aryu said:

In that case, no game is better than the Nintendo World Championships 1990 on the NES because it is the most expensive.

the argument is in regards to price justification. besides ppl don't buy nwc 90 to play with it.


In that case why would someone buy ICO PS2 or WindWaker GC when they could own it on PS3/WiiU respectively in a higher resolution?


to play it on their gamecube ps2. 

 Are you kidding me? it's more likely that people buy these games for these prices to collect them. If you wanted to play it, you would've bought it when it was out or when the console was still alive and kicking. Why buy a game that costs more than the console? Also price does not reflect quality as shown by my post about NWC90! so your argument about price justification is just ridiculous. ICO was and still is a masterpiece.



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green_sky said:

I'd give it a "B-" for creativity and "F" for content. Kind of reminds of that SpurgeRyan thread where he is urging people to buy one third party game a month.

Yep, now Nintendo fans must do charity for multi-million dollar corporations.

Is not charity, you are not giving your money for nothing in return, nobody is asking to purchase garbage games, just to look around and give more third party games an opprtunity and I fully support that idea, I already bought the GREAT Deus Ex for Wii U (everyone should get that game right now!!!) and I am waiting for Amazing Spiderman that looks pretty good for a 30 U$ game.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=175584



aryu said:
snyps said:
aryu said:
snyps said:
aryu said:

In that case, no game is better than the Nintendo World Championships 1990 on the NES because it is the most expensive.

the argument is in regards to price justification. besides ppl don't buy nwc 90 to play with it.


In that case why would someone buy ICO PS2 or WindWaker GC when they could own it on PS3/WiiU respectively in a higher resolution?


to play it on their gamecube ps2. 

 Are you kidding me? it's more likely that people buy these games for these prices to collect them. If you wanted to play it, you would've bought it when it was out or when the console was still alive and kicking. Why buy a game that costs more than the console? Also price does not reflect quality as shown by my post about NWC90! so your argument about price justification is just ridiculous. ICO was and still is a masterpiece.

ico is a strange piece of work but ultimately it's an escort puzzle mission with a sentimental quality to it.  Not game of the year material imo. Eye of the beholder maybe. Sure ur right they buy to collect but it's a good playable experience unlike nwc90.  They get to enjoy playing it, not just owning it. I think Windwaker is more comparable to Combat evolved as far as craftsmanship.  I don't know how much that remake cost at launch but i'd say near full price would be acceptable.