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prayformojo said:
GamechaserBE said:
Discs feel so useless this days, on my PS4 I have 6-8 games and only one is on a disc =p.


I have an NES with about 70 carts. These games are up to 29 years old. They work as flawlessly as they did when they were released. Lets see if your PS4 titles are still accessable in 30 years when the servers are gone, and the systems have all quit working.

I will be happy if I am atleast alive in 30 years =p.   I was a collector who had more than a thousand games...it was nice to have them but all they did was taking room because I hardly played them so I doubt I will care about those games in 30 years...  Also we probably stream them on PS9.



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Blu Ray on Xbox One is full advantage and perfect...But for see Blurays I have Ps3 like player. Only for see Blurays.This is how they sold the console: the cheapest bluray player....:):):):):)



existenz2 said:

Genuine question - you didnt have this technology last gen.

 

Are you using your blu ray

-to load disc games(or are you digital only) ?

-to play HD blu-ray movies ?

 

what do you think of it ?

I brought my XB1 for games not to watch movies. The Blu Ray drive is a cool feature but nothing new since i had a Blu Ray player since they were new.



I know it doesn't really answer the OP, but we stopped using Blu-ray on console when we found out that the picture quality is... just bad compared to a dedicated blu-ray device. I doubt the XBone and PS4 are noticeably better at it, and suspect that our old LG device still runs laps around them like it does around the PS3.

I wouldn't ever buy a console for blu-ray.



S.Peelman said:
I know it doesn't really answer the OP, but we stopped using Blu-ray on console when we found out that the picture quality is... just bad compared to a dedicated blu-ray device. I doubt the XBone and PS4 are noticeably better at it, and suspect that our old LG device still runs laps around them like it does around the PS3.

The PS3 as a blu-ray player has its flaws compared to a dedicated blu-ray-player (power consumption, noise of the fan)... but I have never heard complaints about its picture quality.

It is still known as a great blu-ray device:

http://reviews.cnet.com/best-blu-ray-players/

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1480646/stick-with-the-ps3-as-blu-ray-player-or-get-a-dedicated-blu-ray-player

http://www.avforums.com/threads/todays-blu-ray-players-vs-ps3-slim.1665393/

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2397234,00.asp

http://www.whathifi.com/forum/blu-ray-players/sony-ps3-vs-blu-ray-players



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Conina said:

The PS3 as a blu-ray player has its flaws compared to a dedicated blu-ray-player (power consumption, noise of the fan)... but I have never heard complaints about its picture quality.

Then you've heard it here first .



S.Peelman said:
Conina said:

The PS3 as a blu-ray player has its flaws compared to a dedicated blu-ray-player (power consumption, noise of the fan)... but I have never heard complaints about its picture quality.

Then you've heard it here first .

You're watching it wrong! ;)

http://www.digitalversus.com/duels-battle-of-five-star-products-a966/blu-ray-player-battle-image-quality-really-any-different-ap879.html

"CONCLUSION: NO REAL DIFFERENCE IN IMAGE QUALITY

Throughout this duel, we've seen that no matter what device you use—whether it's a PlayStation 3, a basic Blu-ray player or a high-end model—the sharpness and colour fidelity of your Blu-ray discs will effectively be identical and equally as faithful to the source."



Conina said:

You're watching it wrong! ;)

http://www.digitalversus.com/duels-battle-of-five-star-products-a966/blu-ray-player-battle-image-quality-really-any-different-ap879.html

"CONCLUSION: NO REAL DIFFERENCE IN IMAGE QUALITY

Throughout this duel, we've seen that no matter what device you use—whether it's a PlayStation 3, a basic Blu-ray player or a high-end model—the sharpness and colour fidelity of your Blu-ray discs will effectively be identical and equally as faithful to the source."

Heh.

I must rectify something though. I didn't mean image quality was 'bad' in absolute terms, I meant there's a noticeable difference in a bad way. There's detail that's not present, or noticeably blurred (even if that's too strong a word). Either way, I doubt my eyes selectively leave out detail and sharpness on one image while showing it on the other. My PS3 actually has a better HDMI cable than the blu-ray, and they're both on the same tv.

So something's up anyway, and if PS3's are supposed to be almost the same I guess I'm just unlucky and mine's got a disc-drive with issues. It's a launch model still, but the 'problem' has been there since the very beginning. At least it still works.



Mystro-Sama said:

If people want to go digital then thats fine but do not touch my motherfucking discs.

Yeah. Don't touch our dicks!



kowenicki said:
Normchacho said:
kowenicki said:
ethomaz said:

People awnsering the serious question of the guy with piracy things lol

I don't have a Xbone but after PS3 I stopped do buy DVDs... only BDs... sad that both new consoles are worst BD player than PS3 but firmware updades will fix that.


Xbox one is decent.  PS4 is bad.


What? Care to elaborate on that claim?

Ethomaz knows what i mean. 

But if I must

bluray.com reviews of xbox one and ps4 bluray capability had this conclusion

XBOX ONE:

Considering the smooth experience, fast access, the absence of glaring glitches, the terrific and intuitive SmartGlass remote app, the awesome Kinect interface, and all the other things the system does well right out of the box, the Xbox One is the clear winner over the PS4 in terms of overall entertainment integration and, more specific to this site and its audience, Blu-ray playback. There's no doubt the PS4 will eventually play catchup and at least rival the Xbox One, but Microsoft has certainly taken the lead and embraced the Blu-ray experience, once its rival, with open arms and an advanced, enjoyable, and accurate interactivity that's nothing short of a terrific experience all round. Oh, and it also plays some great video games. The Xbox One comes very highly recommended.

 

PS4:


Frankly, using the PS4 as a Blu-ray playback device has proven to be an exercise in frustration given three system freezes and the audio glitch necessitating another round of disc sampling to ensure it was an isolated incident. Fortunately none of the other discs seemed prone, and the freezes also seemed random. The PlayStation 4 is certainly a worthwhile investment for the avid gamer, but for those either hoping for improved and expanded Blu-ray playback capabilities, it's currently not worth the upgrade. In fact, it's smart to stay rather far away for the time being. Considering the price, expanded features, greater stability, and comparable, if not equal, playback quality, the PlayStation 3 remains the superior gaming/Blu-ray playback hybrid machine. Here's hoping Microsoft's next-gen machine, which has been marketed as more of a "media hub" and less a pure gaming device, fares better out-of-the-box as a Blu-ray player. Watch for a review in the coming days.

 

Happy now? 

Well my respect for blu-ray.com went down a lot today after reading this much more in depth analysis by Eurogamer.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-ps4-vs-xbox-one-which-is-the-better-media-player

They also had issues with freezing on ps4 with Avatar, but far more problems on XBox One

Blu-ray playback - a mixed bag

First impressions of Xbox One Blu-ray playback seem positive once all of the updates are out of the way and the bespoke app is installed: the machine loaded up every disc we threw at it, and we weren't confronted by any obvious incompatibilities. Our experience is initially less pleasing on the PS4, with the original release of James Cameron's Avatar crashing to a black screen across two different units after around a minute of playback. Thankfully, we didn't encounter any issues on other discs we tried, and we imagine that problems such as this can easily be fixed with a software update. Still, as first impressions goes, it's not a great indicator of the overall stability of the system.

In terms of actual picture quality, both consoles output a pure 1080p image without artificially changing the source material in any way, meaning colour accuracy, sharpness and detail are identical. Considering that the Xbox One has to convert Blu-rays from digital component to RGB this is great news, restricting any differences to how individual HDTVs handle these sources.

User reports of compromised 24Hz playback on the Xbox One, however, are disturbing for a console so heavily focused on non-gaming usage. 24fps is a core part of the Blu-ray specification, and any modern device worth its salt should be able to correctly handle that frame-rate without issue. Indeed, the PS3 plays back material at 24Hz flawlessly without introducing any unwanted side effects, and we found the PS4 to be equally solid in this regard. And yet we are on shaky ground with Xbox One. Initially we found the machine outputting a solid 24Hz signal free of any anomalies, but testing a number of discs over a two-hour period revealed some serious audio sync issues where the sound would often lag behind the video by a couple of seconds regardless of what audio setting is selected, making films viewed in this mode unwatchable.

At this point in time the solution is to switch the Xbox One to 60Hz when playing Blu-ray discs, but doing so introduces noticeable judder as the 24fps source is displayed unevenly through a 60Hz output - not exactly an ideal fix. In fact, we noticed some judder when using 24Hz playback from time to time, indicating that the Xbox One isn't always correctly handling this frame-rate. Microsoft is aware of these issues and is investigating the cause, but there's so sign of an update to fix it thus far - a particular disappointment given the Xbox One's huge multimedia focus.

Basic 1080p playback is more stable on the PS4, although Sony's system isn't completely without its own quirks. The console struggles to correctly de-interlace progressive 25fps content encoded at 1080i50 without throwing away a small amount of picture information and blending detail from one frame into the next, duplicate image (all of our test consoles output 1080i50 at 1080p50, resulting in each frame being duplicated). Manually switching the console to 1080i shows no improvement, indicating that the machine is internally de-interlacing the signal regardless of the output resolution.

On the other hand, the Xbox One gets the de-interlacing part right, but then converts the 50Hz output to 60Hz causing judder - for every five "native" frames, a sixth duplicate is added. To put things in perspective, the PS3 comfortably handles all high-definition material on disc without compromising the output in any way. And let's not forget that the PS3 also handles 3D Blu-ray movies too - a feature that is currently missing on both of the next-gen consoles.

They continue with DVD and video app comparisons, also far free from issues on both systems.

A site like blu-ray.com missing 1080p24 playback issues is pretty bad.