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Wonktonodi said:
colafitte said:
Callum_Alexander said:

"Since their release, the PS4 has sold 4.2 million consoles worldwide while the Xbox One sold 3.9 million."


LOL, this what's I was referring in another topic not long time ago, when i critizised the Greenbertg tweet, and then ioi critizised people taking notice of that spin. Everyone who was annoyed by this tweet was because of this. I knew it this will happen, that some article was going to spin the numbers....oooooggghhhh.

And Greenberg knew this would happen too, that's why he didn't give explanation what "3'9m sold"really meant.


why don't you click the link before thinking it proves you right?

 

hint: it's not the tweet

What???, What i'm saying is some journalist in some gaming news site is using this line: "Since their release, the PS4 has sold 4.2 million consoles worldwide while the Xbox One sold 3.9 million."because Greenberg wasn't clear about what "3'9m sold"  in that tweeter conversation. One guy said this was "SHIPPED, NOT SOLD", and then he said "actually the correct term is sold". People can translate that SHIPPED=SOLD(to consumers), don't you think????. and this article proves my point.

That was all the problem, because that comparison is inaccurate, tells a lie, and benefits only Microsoft, and we see now why some of us protested.



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VitroBahllee said:
eFKac said:
VitroBahllee said:

Somini said:

A bunch of stuff


Some words


So you must not be around gaming industry for too long.

I've just never seen the exclusivity of a title attacked like this before. Before the announcement that it would be only on X1/PC/360 for 'the lifetime of the title,' TONS of forumdwellers were like 'Yeah, we'll be getting Titanfall on PS4 by the end of the year.' As soon as it was definitively stated that wasn't the case, you start seeing stuff like this.

Who the hell cares. Some things are just exclusives. I get that a lot of people want to play this game. That's what quality exclusive titles are for: to make you want the console they are exclusive to. Everybody is just so caught up in this idea that they have to hate MS over their X1 unveiling that they are expressing really complicated emotions over this game's exclusivity.

It's ridiculous. You want to play it, but you don't want to buy an X1 just to play it, or maybe you sort of do and it's making you feel weird. Whatever. The point of a top-notch exclusive is to make you want to buy the console. It's why people buy Nintendo to play Smash, it's why people buy Sony to play tons of titles, and its why people buy Xbox to play Halo and Gears and whatever else.

It's just creepy the way some people are fixating on Titanfall and coming up with conspiracies. Just admit to yourselves you want to play it and if you are dead set against hating the Xbox, get it for PC. And if you don't want to play it, chillax and think about something else.

There IS NO CONSPIRACY. There's nothing to see here. A quality exclusive has been paid for by a rich console platform. Happened before. Will happen again.

The game looks very cool. But it is inspiring some weird as hell threads. (Beta conspiracy! EA made a bad prediction! Blah blah blickity blah!)

Craziness!

Right now, Titanfall's Xbox 1 version has about 25,000 more preorders than Infamous: Second Son, so it can't have been THAT stupid of an idea to make it exclusive to Xbox 1.

It's called fanboyism.



So basically, they assumed the Xbone would sell more?



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Microsoft did something similar with Bioshock during the 360 era to offset Playstation Bioshock sales.



I'll fix the headline.

Titanfalls exclusivity based on MS' Peter Moore now working for EA(something similar already happened when MS' Elop started working for Nokia and created another exclusiv Deal.So exclusiv that Nokia was forced by him to abandon the Nokia In-House OS Symbian(the last one not infiltrated by the NSA and replaced it with windows mobile)



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I dont see the problem with that line of thought.

Titanfall will have been in development now for what, 3 Years? 2-3 Years ago things were a lot different than they are today and Xbox certainly had the upper hand in the Western/Shooter market.

That said, I still think a big bag of money will have been involved to keep it away from PS4 since preorder numbers started rolling in for Gen 8 HW.



                            

he talking about the initial choice to release first on xbox vs playstation, during the timed exclusivity deal.

the full exclusivity deal only happened around launch, not years ago.



colafitte said:
Wonktonodi said:
colafitte said:
Callum_Alexander said:

"Since their release, the PS4 has sold 4.2 million consoles worldwide while the Xbox One sold 3.9 million."


LOL, this what's I was referring in another topic not long time ago, when i critizised the Greenbertg tweet, and then ioi critizised people taking notice of that spin. Everyone who was annoyed by this tweet was because of this. I knew it this will happen, that some article was going to spin the numbers....oooooggghhhh.

And Greenberg knew this would happen too, that's why he didn't give explanation what "3'9m sold"really meant.


why don't you click the link before thinking it proves you right?

 

hint: it's not the tweet

What???, What i'm saying is some journalist in some gaming news site is using this line: "Since their release, the PS4 has sold 4.2 million consoles worldwide while the Xbox One sold 3.9 million."because Greenberg wasn't clear about what "3'9m sold"  in that tweeter conversation. One guy said this was "SHIPPED, NOT SOLD", and then he said "actually the correct term is sold". People can translate that SHIPPED=SOLD(to consumers), don't you think????. and this article proves my point.

That was all the problem, because that comparison is inaccurate, tells a lie, and benefits only Microsoft, and we see now why some of us protested.


No the article doesn't prove your point. Click the link that says 3.9 xbox ones

"In reporting its financial results for the quarter, Microsoft got a little more specific regarding Xbox One sales for the year, revealing 3.9 million Xbox One consoles were shipped in the second quarter. That means 3.9 million was the total number of units shipped in 2013 for the new console. But remember, units shipped is not the same as units sold. Earlier this month, Microsoft announced that it had sold over three million Xbox One consoles in 2013, compared to the PlayStation 4's 4.2 million sold."

in addition note athor Matt Liebl fun fact. He wrote both. So he clearly knows the difference.



FlamingWeazel said:
J_Allard said:
Yeah I am totally sure EA doesn't know the difference between shipped and sold.


Who said anything about EA? it was gamezone that said that.

Gamezone knows the difference as well. See the hyperlink in the article where they say 3.9 million sold? Click on it.



Machiavellian said:

I believe people should understand that this is still a Respawn game and EA only have publishing rights.  Without understanding the contract between EA and Respawn, no one can really understand what EA can or even will do for Titanfall.  Also without knowing how much money changed hands between EA and MS, who's to know if they will be losing any money on the deal.

Another thing to consider is the install base for the X1 compared to PS4.  Just because the PS4 sold more does not mean their customer base for a FPS game like Titanfall is bigger.  

As for porting the game to the PS3, that would mean more resources on Respawn end to insure a successful port.  Not know how well the 360 version will turn out, who can say having another team doing the PS3 port would turn out any better or even worst if people on the respawn team do not have the skill to ensure a proper port.  With a new IP that really did not have any buzz until much later than when this deal was done, the risk of going multiplat compared to exclusive was probably too much.  Going exclusive gave Respawn a focus and money in the pocket even if the game is not a great success.  It allows them to improve the game and continue to pay their people a salary.  If the game is successful they can easily do the second one multiplat just like COD.

Well, EA just said they only had enough money to develop for one console. Being the publisher, they provide the funding for it, so I'm sure they understand exactly what respawn will be able to do with it.

However, EA also said that titanfall would never be multiplat, which is incongruent with the funding argument. Obviously if the game is supposed to be a success, then it only makes sense to make a ps4 version. However, the argument there would be that if it's a success, they might just instead move right onto titanfall 2, and increase the funding to make it multiplat, which would make more sense than porting it to ps4.