kidvizious said:
enditall727 said:
kidvizious said:
enditall727 said:
kidvizious said:
Yes, Donaire, Marquez, Pac, and Floyd have KO'd bums in the beginning of their careers but they stepped up in class and beat, KOd hall of famers/extremely high level competition. Any knowledgable boxing fan that watches ALL boxing will tell you Tyson was highly overrated and not great nor anywhere near great.
Yes, Tyson had power against Low Tier opposition. Quit acting like the guys he beat were P4P fighters cause they weren't. They were shit.
No. If Tyson had beat Lewis and Holyfield, he'd deserve to be pretty high up on the list in terms of ranking as a heavyweight but he didn't. Any knowledgable boxing fan doesn't consider Lewis nor Holyfield bums. Not trying to get at anything other than the fact that everytime Tyson stepped up to fight the best, he got KOd everytime. Hell, he got KOd by a fellow bum.
You sound like this guy I know. Only knows Tyson and considerst Tyson the greatest. Let go of the nostalgia and look at the accomplishments. Pretty crappy.
Jones was good. He beat good opponents such as Hopkins, Toney, Ruiz. But once he got caught, it was over. He didn't live up to the P4P legendary status.
Tyson has also ranted/discussed his desire to kill, his dissapointment at not killing a fellow boxer, and how certain things keep him from killing someone. Pretty freaking psycho.
Besides, stop talking about their personal lives. We are talking about boxing in the ring, Not outside.
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Give me some examples of people who claim Tyson is "highly overrated"? Are you talking about random fans specifically?
Tyson still didn't kill anyone though. Valero had to kill his self for what he did.
You're trying to say that Tyson is a bum.... that's all that needs to be known you want to find out if somebody actually knows their shit about boxing.
Tyson a bum? LMAO XD!
What a great laugh. Thanks
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Yes, Tyson was a bum. His accomplishments are pretty poor. His record is shit and his resume is pretty shit. If you can't see that I don't know how else I can convince you except pull out his actual resume and highlight how poor and ill equipped his opponents were along with all the KOs he has against him.
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Lewis lost to a bum aswell. Nobody is perfect. Anything can happen in that ring
Lewis needed to fight Tyson to solidify his legacy. Now why would he have to fight a "bum" to do that?
When you look at Evander Holyfield and Lennox Lewis, who is one of the 1st people you name that they beat to prove how great they were? That's right, you said it MOTHERFUCKING MIKE TYSON!
Mike Tyson was miles away from being a bum. Those Heavyweights weren't stepping in the ring with a "bum".
Name Evander Holyfields accomplishments for me really quick then. I bet my life that Mike Tysons name will be 1 of the 1st names mentioned in that list.
But whatever though..
It's interesting to that somebody actually believes that Tyson was a bum. Now i can say that i've heard it all.
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Lewis didn't NEED the Tyson fight to solidify his legacy. Are you serious? He beat Morrison, Mercer, Golotta, Holyfield, Tua, Tyson, and Klitschko. Remove the Tyson win and you still have a hell of a resume.
When I look at/think of Lewis's fight that truly showed how great he was, it was his fights with Holyfield and his stoppage of Kiltchko even though he was at the end of his career and Kilthcko was in his prime. Not "MIKE MOTHERFUCKING GET KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT 5 TIMES TYSON".
With Holyfield it was, Douglas, Holmes, Foreman, Moorer, Mercer, Tyson, Ruiz, etc. Without the Tyson fights he still has a great legacy unlike "MIKE MOTHERFUCKING GET KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT 5 TIMES TYSON".
And overrated he was. That is what his accomplishments and legacy have left him. The most overrated boxer of all time.
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