Absolutely, there are actually a lot of pretty insightful posts in here but they often get nonsensical or ridiculous answers. I also feel that most people are letting their preference and emotions steer their "analysis" and predictions, a lot of users are clearly bypassing reality in favor of some comforting construct.

Anyway, there are way too many threads whining about rules, banning and tracking in here lately, I think this is in part due to mods actually being a lot more patient in here than a lot of other sites so people actually feel they can start threads to whine on them, the tracking part is something unique to vgchartz though; surely a great challenge, probably the biggest one in here as far as discussions go, especially for new members who don't have any insight into how it all works.

I don't think Brett is being unreasonable or going overboard here at all, if I had a large website with a forum and people started acting like bitches and basically used the free forums as an arena to constantly whine about what the site is actually doing, I'd be pretty goddamn pissed. And then they also whine about being moderated for their initial whining. Sometimes when I read a post, I think to myself; why on earth is this person even in here?

Bring us back to the point the sales discussions where actually about the numbers and not trying to spin it in your "sides" favor.

People are not using logic anymore when discussing sales.

anyone remember this

Stop allowing anything not connected with the original topic of a thread and anything that even remotely tries bashing or taking a jab at someone.

I was told by kantor that i can call a posters post stupid. that is hardly respectful. on top of that the mod team is so inconsistant its mind boggling. I got banned for saying someones denial was pathetic (same concept as above) and another user in the same thread said the exact same thing (no moderation) and another user called the guy a clown (no moderation)

No, I agree - I'm certainly not encouraging it.

As I've already said I'd like people to engage in discussions in a respectful and open-minded way - take on board different points of views and express your own with some form of evidence / backup.

At the same time, I understand that most people can get heated at times (I'm as guilty as anyone) and it can be frustrating when you make a point and people still don't understand or accept it. I can understand situations where someone feels that someone else's behaviour is "stupid" or "idiotic" and I understand if people feel the need to point that out. It isn't ideal by any means and straddles the line of becoming disrespectful but I think it is different to say that what someone is saying is stupid compared to calling someone stupid which is far more personal and a direct insult.

The real world isn't black and white unfortunately and with grey areas like this I trust moderators to make a decision based on the context.

^He's referring to this, you might have skipped his 2nd post.

This thread. Read from the start.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=176824&page=19#8