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What should it be called?

PS4.1 10 20.83%
 
PS4+ 15 31.25%
 
PS4ever 14 29.17%
 
Other 8 16.67%
 
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Captain_Tom said:
JoeTheBro said:
kirby007 said:
gergroy said:
This doesnt sound like something likely to happen.

It's possible, but i doubt its worth the hassle.


Why not? People who like watching netflix and going online while playing games will be forced to upgrade every few years. It's a money machine!


No I think what they might do is just release a version that is at most 50% stronger, and then not change anything.  So think of it this way:

-KZSF and other soft 60 FPS games run 60 FPS 100% of the time on PS4.1

-PS4.1 games are designed to run at 60 FPS 100% of the time, but then end up running 30-40 FPS on PS4. 

That would be easy to do...

Oh yuck! I think the first point works in your design, but not the second. If a PS4.1 game is designed from the ground up for 4.1, running it at a lower spec would be much more likely to break it verse just lowering the framerate. It's like how a few weeks before going gold an Uncharted 3 dev took the disc home and tried it on his phat. In the office they tested on slims and everything worked, but on his phat the game was a mess and became unplayable after a few hours. That was just with super minor differences and it broke the game.

 

Of course if Sony did your idea devs would be testing on the weaker system throughout production, but it'd still ad another development hurdle.



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eFKac said:
JoeTheBro said:

They'd cram as much as they could in the secondary area, but mostly the features would just be disabled. Right now you can be surfing the web, have music going, have netflix paused, and be in the middle of a game. When PS4.0 plays 4.1 games it loses the ability to multitask and all other non essential features. It would basically be a core gamer's dream with games getting 100% of the system power (minus the secondary chip area). Since casuals and many others enjoy the non gaming features, the PS4.1 is avaliable which has a beefed up secondary chip allowing all of those non gaming features to run there.

Ohh ok now I at last totally get the idea. I would be even all for it. I just don't know if it would be worth it for Sony to consider it. How much difference would you expect? (and please don't show me the GoW video, it's nice but diminishing returns need to be considered in)


The GOW video was a different situation anyway. It was an up-clock while this would be an increase in resources.

The difference all depends on how many system resources are currently reserved. So with the RAM if only .5 GB were reserved, then it'd be a really small difference. If 4 GB were reserved, then it'd make a huge difference. Same goes for CPU and GPU. If PS4.1 had a flagship title launch with it, the difference could be pretty apparent. Otherwise the average gamer wouldn't notice a thing. Heck people barely can tell the difference between XBONE and PS4 games.



Maybe, maybe not. The world will never know... Well, until mid-gen.



They would call the new revision with enhancements not improving the gaming experience "PS4".

If the enhancements come together with a smaller console, probably "PS4 slim".
If the enhancements come together with a bigger hard drive, probably "PS4 2TB" or "PS4 2000GB".



I would buy it if they release a ps4.1 with a 4k blu-ray player and hdmi 2.0 Any further upgrades are a nice bonus.

PS4K!



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SvennoJ said:

I would buy it if they release a ps4.1 with a 4k blu-ray player and hdmi 2.0 Any further upgrades are a nice bonus.

PS4K!


Damn I hoped PS4 would come with HDMI 2.0, much like PS3 introduced HDMI 1.3 if I'm not mistaken. That would give us 4K gaming possibility with normal framerate.

On the other hand 3D supposedly was only possible on HDMI 1.4 but they managed to do it, so no all hope lost, but not many devs would push 4K, since it would be for 2D games at best. But imagine that fuckin crispy Rayman *_*



So it is happening...PS4 preorder.

Greatness Awaits!

eFKac said:
SvennoJ said:

I would buy it if they release a ps4.1 with a 4k blu-ray player and hdmi 2.0 Any further upgrades are a nice bonus.

PS4K!


Damn I hoped PS4 would come with HDMI 2.0, much like PS3 introduced HDMI 1.3 if I'm not mistaken. That would give us 4K gaming possibility with normal framerate.

On the other hand 3D supposedly was only possible on HDMI 1.4 but they managed to do it, so no all hope lost, but not many devs would push 4K, since it would be for 2D games at best. But imagine that fuckin crispy Rayman *_*

HDMI 1.4 does support 4K at 30fps, so that can still happen. Maybe it can push a 4K Beyond 2 souls type game at 2.35:1 24fps. I assume all 4K displays will support 24p mode, so why not. 3840x1634 at 24fps is only 121% of 1920x1080 at 60fps. Optimize a bit, add some black bars and you have KZ SF quality in cinemascope 4K.



SvennoJ said:
eFKac said:
SvennoJ said:

I would buy it if they release a ps4.1 with a 4k blu-ray player and hdmi 2.0 Any further upgrades are a nice bonus.

PS4K!


Damn I hoped PS4 would come with HDMI 2.0, much like PS3 introduced HDMI 1.3 if I'm not mistaken. That would give us 4K gaming possibility with normal framerate.

On the other hand 3D supposedly was only possible on HDMI 1.4 but they managed to do it, so no all hope lost, but not many devs would push 4K, since it would be for 2D games at best. But imagine that fuckin crispy Rayman *_*

HDMI 1.4 does support 4K at 30fps, so that can still happen. Maybe it can push a 4K Beyond 2 souls type game at 2.35:1 24fps. I assume all 4K displays will support 24p mode, so why not. 3840x1634 at 24fps is only 121% of 1920x1080 at 60fps. Optimize a bit, add some black bars and you have KZ SF quality in cinemascope 4K.


Ohh, honestly I thought it only supports 4K at 24 frames max.



So it is happening...PS4 preorder.

Greatness Awaits!

This "relatively small graphical upgrade" will be completely unnoticable to the human eye. We would then be watching comparison videos of PS4 and PS4.1 run games that show they are exactly similar and not worth the upgrade whatsoever.



jabberjawky72 said:
This "relatively small graphical upgrade" will be completely unnoticable to the human eye. We would then be watching comparison videos of PS4 and PS4.1 run games that show they are exactly similar and not worth the upgrade whatsoever.


Well you wouldn't have any head to head comparisons to look at. It's not like a game will exist for both modes. A PS4.1 game would just have a sticker stating "Some non game features not available during play on PS4.0 systems."