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Shyakugaun said:

The only thing I'm really starting to not like about this is now people are accusing all youtubers of being shills and are shitting on us, when this was in fact a small amount of youtubers who entered this promo to begin, smfh at the guy who leaked this, he must have been such a butthurt fanboy , now he's damaging all youtbers reputation as a whole ugh


youtube, facebook, twitter, basically any internet conected social media are pretty much all shills. it the reason the internet view do not reflect real life views, wether it politics with Ron Paul, or video games, or movies.



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FlamingWeazel said:
dreamcast210 said:
These are ads, plain and simple. Just like a commercial where a company pays another to create a video that is marketing the product in a positive light, that's what happened here. I don't really understand why this is a big deal. This is just a part of the change of landscape in advertising due to the Internet.

Move along. Nothing to see here....


And another one commenting before understanding the issue..no it si not just ads, in fact they are trying to HID the fact that it is an ad. It's illegal.

Who cares? I don't.

Where's the law saying it's illegal to be paid to post a positive video about a product on YouTube? Show me that and I'll care a little.

Mind you, very little.



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My favorite part of the article is how it blows the entire situation way out of proportion... At the end of the this is really not a big deal.



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I think it's also important to look at the wording, specifically "disparage". That means they were not to regard or represent as being of little worth. That doesn't mean they couldn't point out something they didn't like or needed work. It just means they couldn't have intent to damage the reputation of each company/product.



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dreamcast210 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
dreamcast210 said:
These are ads, plain and simple. Just like a commercial where a company pays another to create a video that is marketing the product in a positive light, that's what happened here. I don't really understand why this is a big deal. This is just a part of the change of landscape in advertising due to the Internet.

Move along. Nothing to see here....


And another one commenting before understanding the issue..no it si not just ads, in fact they are trying to HID the fact that it is an ad. It's illegal.

Who cares? I don't.

Where's the law saying it's illegal to be paid to post a positive video about a product on YouTube? Show me that and I'll care a little.

Mind you, very little.

Man again, did you READ??The issue is not paying it is a clause that forces people to not say anything about the agreement which is unethical, lying, and breaks FTC regulations, read before posting ain;t hard.



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@flamingweazel your really pushing this issue huh ? lol



Machiavellian said:
So let me get this straight. MS paid to have a personality praise their product. Would this be any different if MS paid Tom Cruz to promote the X1. Am I missing something?


Only Tom Cruz cant tell anyone that MS paid them to promote the XB1. Thats the illegal part, not informing people that you are being paid by a certain company to give posite feedback on their product.

Certainly MS can pay people to do this but that person must make it clear to their audiance that they were moneyhatted to do so, otherwise illegal.



Not a big deal at all. I swear some of you make mountains out of mole hills.



Shyakugaun said:
Who gives a shit, so sick how political gaming has become lately, i swear it's like we spend more time discussing trivial shit than actually games


1. This is fucking bribary.

2. News like this is what forums are for.



Kresnik said:
What on earth happened here?

This thread isn't about Kowenicki. Enough with these accusing posts. Any more after this will get moderated.

Goes to show that he's derailed the thread. Which is why i think it would be great if we had a system in place that maximized the number of posts in the same topic, by the same user.