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fatslob-:O said:
tiffac said:
fatslob-:O said:

I could also say that those games are pretty terrible in my eyes too so how do we go about measuring quality then if each and every one of us has a conflicting view ?

Winning among critics means nothing if the public objects to buying those pieces of entertainment. 

Its all about opinions. What is crap to you can be gold to others and vice versa.

There are ways to measuring quality and sales are probably the best indicator for it considering they are the votes of consumers. 

Nope its all about opinions. You cannot change someone view point when the mind is already made up.



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tiffac said:
fatslob-:O said:
tiffac said:
fatslob-:O said:

I could also say that those games are pretty terrible in my eyes too so how do we go about measuring quality then if each and every one of us has a conflicting view ?

Winning among critics means nothing if the public objects to buying those pieces of entertainment. 

Its all about opinions. What is crap to you can be gold to others and vice versa.

There are ways to measuring quality and sales are probably the best indicator for it considering they are the votes of consumers. 

Nope its all about opinions. You cannot change someone view point when the mind is already made up.

That's quality at a LOCAL basis, I'm talking about quality at a GLOBAL basis. 



fatslob-:O said:
tiffac said:
fatslob-:O said:
tiffac said:
fatslob-:O said:

I could also say that those games are pretty terrible in my eyes too so how do we go about measuring quality then if each and every one of us has a conflicting view ?

Winning among critics means nothing if the public objects to buying those pieces of entertainment. 

Its all about opinions. What is crap to you can be gold to others and vice versa.

There are ways to measuring quality and sales are probably the best indicator for it considering they are the votes of consumers. 

Nope its all about opinions. You cannot change someone view point when the mind is already made up.

That's quality at a LOCAL basis, I'm talking about quality at a GLOBAL basis. 

There is no such thing as global or local. opinions is the basis of what is quality to us.



tiffac said:
fatslob-:O said:
tiffac said:
fatslob-:O said:
tiffac said:
fatslob-:O said:

I could also say that those games are pretty terrible in my eyes too so how do we go about measuring quality then if each and every one of us has a conflicting view ?

Winning among critics means nothing if the public objects to buying those pieces of entertainment. 

Its all about opinions. What is crap to you can be gold to others and vice versa.

There are ways to measuring quality and sales are probably the best indicator for it considering they are the votes of consumers. 

Nope its all about opinions. You cannot change someone view point when the mind is already made up.

That's quality at a LOCAL basis, I'm talking about quality at a GLOBAL basis. 

There is no such thing as global or local. opinions is the basis of what is quality to us.

I thought our buying power was based on PPP.

On a more serious note though you can measure quality by sales. 



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fatslob-:O said:

I thought our buying power was based on PPP.

On a more serious note though you can measure quality by sales. 


Ah but the counter arguement is quality can also be measured by its critical acclaims, hence opinions :)

There is no wrong view point here because everything is in the eye of th beholder, so to speak ^^

Oh I did made an edit on my last post, I did say buying power there didn't I? hahahaha my fail XD



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toastboy44562 said:
Muffin31190 said:
Yeah I believe you to very wrong OP, the Perfect counter example to this is the Dreamcast, a highly Quality console for the time with good amount of quality games and still low sales so yup.


There isn't one game on the dreamcast that i think is remotely good. I wouldn't even play anything on there that was given to me for free. It's all subjective

Did you play any Games on the Dreamcast, because I feel like your missing out on a lot of great games. And a large part of the Gaming Community agrees that the Dreamcast was robbed of the glory it could have had because of the success of the PS2 (and the failed business practices of Sega).
And also Just because "you" dont see any appeal in the games does not make them have any less Quality to it and it doesnt make any of the games less memorable or Rated very highly among the gaming community.
ex: I think Call of Duty is a lame and repetative game but does that make the game have any less Quality, no there is tons of work and effort put into those games to make them as polished as possible to make a Quality game and it is enjoyed by many gamers.



fatslob-:O said:

I could also say that those games are pretty terrible in my eyes too so how do we go about measuring quality then if each and every one of us has a conflicting view ?

Winning among critics means nothing if the public objects to buying those pieces of entertainment. 

But see now what your getting at is just Opinions that measure quality not the amount of sales, as we see with certain games that were remastered but did not have colossal sales, With this argument I could say only High selling games are quality ones, but there are games out there that I love and do not have huge sales and im sure you have some games that you enjoy that are not massivly popular, and it does make them any less of a quality game.
And another way to look at this Indies have had massive success, not 10 million sales kind of success (except for Minecraft), but still success in a different variety with the fact that you do not need to have a AAA budget and a veteran team to make a "Quality Game".



Muffin31190 said:
toastboy44562 said:
Muffin31190 said:
Yeah I believe you to very wrong OP, the Perfect counter example to this is the Dreamcast, a highly Quality console for the time with good amount of quality games and still low sales so yup.


There isn't one game on the dreamcast that i think is remotely good. I wouldn't even play anything on there that was given to me for free. It's all subjective

Did you play any Games on the Dreamcast, because I feel like your missing out on a lot of great games. And a large part of the Gaming Community agrees that the Dreamcast was robbed of the glory it could have had because of the success of the PS2 (and the failed business practices of Sega).
And also Just because "you" dont see any appeal in the games does not make them have any less Quality to it and it doesnt make any of the games less memorable or Rated very highly among the gaming community.
ex: I think Call of Duty is a lame and repetative game but does that make the game have any less Quality, no there is tons of work and effort put into those games to make them as polished as possible to make a Quality game and it is enjoyed by many gamers.


Just because you and a 100 people on the internetz thinks the dreamcast is badass and hundreds of millions of people think it sucks doesn't make it a high quality imo. Unless you think that your opinion trumps everyone else's on the face of the planet. If it had high quality games and people liked the system it would have sold and it didn't. This means it isn't a high quality imo. people make rational decisions and if there is a substitute that's better (in this case ps2) people will buy that instead.