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Of course it can be saved. Look at the PS3's comeback around 2009. That was a system destined for a very distant third and it's come back to essentially tie with the other two.

Now the XBONE is in a different situation. There's very little Microsoft can do to make it a better core system than the PS4. At the moment however it's practically trivial to beat the PS4 with casuals and gimmicks. Release some cool thing people didn't even know they wanted and bam.



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im not reading your whole OP but i dont think it needs saving. Ms just over stuffed. sell through this quarter will be fine but MS will need to slow shipments to allow it to catch up. thats all



The general theme on VGChartz at the moment seems to be if you are not in number 1 spot and selling 100k+ a week then the console is dead.

XBOne has been a massive success, sure, not as much of a success as the PS4 but a success is a success



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I live in a world where it's not necessarily a bad sign that a product is readily available. It seems that everyone expects it to be sold out to be a success. I don't understand the logic.



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dreamcast210 said:
I live in a world where it's not necessarily a bad sign that a product is readily available. It seems that everyone expects it to be sold out to be a success. I don't understand the logic.


Readily available is fine for $5-$50 things.  Having a couple dozen of a $500 thing at each retail outlet is bad...



It is near the end of the end....

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Landguy said:
kitler53 said:

i'm not convinced it needs saving yet..

2nd place doesn't mean terrible.  the data so far show xbone doing really well and unless i see a corner in the data (alla wiiU where the sales velocity takes a massive decline) it doesn't need saving.  so far there isn't enough data to decide one way or another but the one week of post holiday xbone sales wasn't too bad.

 

keep these numbers in mind.  the lowest weekly global sales in the first year was about:

360:   70k
ps3:    49k   (or 58k post european launch)
wiiU:  19k

to date xbone's lowest sales is 171k.

When you look at the chart http://www.vgchartz.com/article/251476/ps4-vs-xbox-one-vs-wii-u-global-launch-sales-comparison/ or article aboout the comparitive launches of the 3 consoles, the XB1 is on the same path as the WiiU.  Of course it had a stronger start, but the trajectory is very similar.  It will take another 4-6 weeks before most Chartz people start to see this more consistantly.  Just in time for Titanfall to obscure the #'s!!!  If Titanfall doesn't blow up and stay that way, there will be a lot more people agreeeing with me by June.

that chart doesn't have enough data to conclude one way or another.   trust me,. i have the same graph expect 360, ps3, ds, 3ds, psp, psvita, and wii are all on it.   xbone is on a pretty "standard" trajectory atm.



If you're not first, you're last. Didn't you guys see Talledega Nights? Everything is doomed.



Things like dropping the price (without changing anything else like offering it without Kinect) would just lose money.
Losing money on the first batch of a console is NORMAL, so both OEMs already committed to what they can commit to.
In fact both OEM's design choices point to them not accepting a long period of losses on the console itself, unlike previous generations,
this one is basically at or very near covering costs or making a marginal profit (especially considering launch bundles or 1 game sale).
MS could drop Kinect, but would doing so really turn the tide in their favor? They would then be at the same price point as Sony but still with weaker hardware and without their one differentiator.
I think the chances of them doing so eventually, perhaps by next Christmas holiday, are high, but they want AT LEAST a year (probably 2) to build up a Kinect base so that devs actually target it.

But both OEM's have already gone with a lower-cost, less-subsidized model...
Rather than throwing more money at a lame horse, MS will likely be content to accept even a 25-30% market share because that can still be profitable.
Even with MS' dominant position last-gen (Sony EVENTUALLY pulled ahead, but MS had a lead for a LONG time, and thus I'd guess the majority of profits from game sales went to MS)
they didn't do amazingly well profit-wise (RROD and warranty costs being a factor), and XBOX division is still looking like a black-hole of RED (business losses),
so sucking up a profitable 2nd rank is just not the worst scenario for them...

If they want to throw more money at XBOX,
I would say they are more likely to do so NEXT GEN after this one, and try to make an actual winner that time.
Both OEMs are highly likely to proceed to the next gen quicker this time than last, given similarity to x86/PC architecture and the possibility to have a backwards compatability.
Backwards compatability should also help game sales, rather than early games having relatively weak sales compared to mature last gen games. That helps profits.
Game devs in fact could quite easily develop 'hybrid' games that not only run on both platforms but actually use the next gen's power for a better experience.
(even more than how PC games scale based on hardware, with just one new gen target, basic gameplay like AI and # of enemies could be tweaked, not just graphics settings)



It's way too early to lump it in with the WiiU. I would agree that all indications point to a comfortable PS4 victory as things stand right now but I've haven't seen anything suggest that the XB1 is doomed. It is true that hardcore fans were always likely to give it a disproportionately strong start but you can say that about almost any console

Besides, it has Titanfall, Sunset Overdrive, Halo5, these will all help it to perform more than respectably even if PS4 outsells it as seems likely



Turkish said:
more jrpgs


Would love to see more JRPG's on any console but the genre a is pretty much a dying breed especially on consoles.