This is older then the Atari 5200......

Nintendo's start + select button are something because every developer since has followed that controller layout. I'll admit it's not a big deal, but it's not trivial like a faster internet port.

Same with the shoulder buttons, and the 4 button layout on the right, and the d-pad, and pretty much the controller as a whole.

BTW I can see why you got banned before, you're very invasive. Instead of debating civily, you insist on being right on wrong. Have you seen me point out and tell you where you're wrong on everything you said? (which was a lot too).

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BTW thinking of controllers, Sony did introduce pressure sensitive buttons on the PS2, or am I wrong about this too? I would give MS credit for the XBO controller as well, having rumble packs in the triggers, but Nintendo is still the leader here.

Would you have Nintendo make something completely out of left field, or something specific?

Personally, I just want something new from Intelligent Systems.

Personally, I would like them to make an action adventure game along the lines of Uncharted.

Commercially, it probably makes more sense for them to make an FPS to compete with the likes of Halo and Destiny.

Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Fit, Wii Music, Disaster Day of Crisis, Hotel Dusk, Endless Ocean

Not sure why you're pasting the BK6, it had a power button and a play button everything else were sliders and a free rotation potentiometer, doesnt bring a single thing in repute of my post, but at least you tried *pat pat*

Dpad is right, 4 button layout on the right is stretch at best, shoulder buttons as i have clearly shown, nope, and the manual even reffered to them, in plain english as shoulder buttons.

PS2 had pressure sensitive buttons, which was new, but they werent all that great, or even useful.

I see you've gone the route of many a forumer who become aware that theyve been corrected and do not want to admit it, or feel theyre on the losing end of an argument, and instead try to divert focus towards the other posters low post count, often to label said user a noob, or a lesser user and contributer to the forum, but more often than not, and as is the case with you, to vocally hypothesize that the person youre in discussion with had been on the forums prior and been banned.

What it boils down to essentially, is that you made some brash, and ultimately, incorrect claims, I pointed out these mistakes and corrected you, in a civil manner, you got extremely defensive and have been so ever since, rather than simply saying "ah right, my bad" and contining the discussion in a civil manner yourself.

I am more than happy to list further innovations by all three manufacturers to debate in a more pleasant manner, It will however require that you take my hand, shake it and be done with this argument and progress henceforth in a more mature manner so we can have a proper discussion.

When i correct you, i do so for your own good, not to piss you off, please understand that.

C-

How about you grow up and learn to not rely on a strawman argument? 

Don't I at least deserve a B for calling you out on your attitude? I've read enough of your posts to know that you condemn storytelling in games and anybody who enjoys them. 

No, a C- is better than you deserve for your lack of reading comprehension.

I have never condemed storytelling in games, nor the people who enjoy it. I have just pointed out that in my opinion storytelling as an artform and videogames as a format is about as compatible as a moose and a bike and as a result to this day videogames have produced not one single worthwhile story, but rather an ocean of extremely mediocre story telling and equally mediocre game designs.

That is my OPINION, and has nothing to do with condemning anyone or anything or telling people what they should enjoy or do. I have long ago resign to what I see as a fact: That the videogame industry will colapse into a shadow of the movie and music industry. Meaning that craftmanship will be replaced by showmanship and glitz, the massmarket will bow down to and lap up the most inane drivel as long as the presentation and hype is strong enough (and yes, I consider story part of the presentation and not the substance).

It saddens me to see that the path is ireversable and it likely means that my 30 years as a videogame enthusiast will likely die with it, but I'm not some sort of moron who thinks that means people should do something they don't want to to facilitate my tastes. I don't condem people for listening to One Direction, I don't condem people for watching Avatar, and I don't condem people for playing The Last of Us. I just hold their tastes in low regard, that's all. Now if my opinion on this matter is offensive to your sensibilities: though cookies. 

Right, I forgot about the Wii series, however I consider Wii Sport/Fit/Play/Music/Whatever one franchise. Disaster: Day of Crisis never localized here, and aren't the last 2 only published by Nintendo? That would be like calling Titanfall an MS IP.

Still, look what the Wii franchises did for Nintendo. That's 2 IP's in all of Wii's life, not bad, but now I want WiiU to see something.

People wouldn't take a Nintendo FPS seriously, and I bought Nintendo could produce something like Destiny. A FPS would be nice, but it would be niche. An Uncharted like game might make more sense financially, but basically you want something for the older crowd right?

Ha, you're a character, and you have an ego. Instead of admiting to be wrong, your taking the route of being "superior" and then you have the audacity to talk down to me. It's funny how when I correct you more then me, your the one who's always right......

A thumb button is not a shoulder button.......

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Anyway I think this debate is over, you've already agreed Nintendo is an innovative leader, so I was right the whole time . Plus if you think things like an ethernet port is innovative, well.....you don't understand what that word means.