Yeah, as proven by Sony All Stars Battle Royale. 

LOL.

I can buy most third party games of Sony's consoles on my pc by the way. I really have no need for an XBOX360/PS3. I'd rate Playstation over XBOX though. 

The ironic part being that many of those franchises are better outside of Sony. Metal Gear Solid had it's definitive version on the GameCube, GTA: Vice City and GTA: San Andreas had better graphics and ran smoother on the original Xbox. Tomb Raider ran far better on PC. Really it's only Final Fantasy, and even that is better on PC now, with the definitive version of FF7 on Steam (they finally fixed the calculation errors with the magic and spirit stats on that version).

All Stars Battle Royale outsold Pikmin 3, despite being a pile of garbage.

To copy your FF7 route, GTA:VC and GTA:SA both looked and ran better on PC.

To then take your route and smack you in the face with it, every damn game from Wii era and earlier runs on PC and looks better in the process regardless of genre so clearly according to you, because it looks and runs better on a PC via emulation, Sony and Nintendo and by and large a waste of time and we should instead simply be using emulators instead of consoles.

Lol, how on earth could you miss my point?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm8qqLT7FpU

Here's a hint. 

So your point is to say "a long standing successful franchise is better than a poorly made spin off" and that somehow universally addresses the topic of third party support and the GOOD first party titles?. Right.

Read my post again, you clearly missed the point.

Nintendo's influence is such that without ever picking up a Nintendo product, if you're gaming you're playing Nintendo. Nintendo drives the games industry to do things they wouldn't normally do. Things outside of the mainstream. Without Nintendo there would be no real platformers for example. Without something like Mario, there wouldn't be games like Little Big Planet or Ratchet & Clank. Why? Because they're not mainstream enough and the other companies all tend towards homogeny. Look at the teams of old. Crash Bandicoot and Spyro The Dragon stopped why? Because those developers and production companies felt they'd be better off making games like Uncharted, Killzone and Resistance. The platformer stopped to make way for more shooting. Now is this a bad thing, not at all, if you like shooters that is.

The fact is "gamer" used to mean something. It used to be a small niche hobby and it could tell you about the likes and dislikes of a person. Just like how a "film buff" is someone who enjoys film in a way most people don't, and "bookworm" enjoys books in a way most people don't. If you watch Hollywood blockbusters you're not a film buff, you're just an ordinary person; you don't need a label because everyone watches Hollywood blockbusters. If you read the Harry Potter books, or The Hunger Games, or even something like The Da Vinci Code, you're not a bookworm, you're just an ordinary person; after all you can't get more mainstream than Harry Potter, Hunger Games and Dan Brown novels. The same is true now of gamers. If you play Call Of Duty, Fifa, and GTA5, you're not a gamer, you're just an ordinary person; everyone plays those games... they're literally the most popular forms of media in the fucking world. If everyone who plays those games is a gamer; EVERYONE is a gamer and the label loses all meaning and purpose. Have you noticed though, most film buffs dislike Hollywood Blockbusters like the Transformers films. Most bookworms consider the Harry Potter books and Dan Brown's novels to be badly written and trite... and... wait for it, most actual gamers, find Call Of Duty and Fifa uninteresting and disconnected from the larger culture that video games are built on.

Call Of Duty and Fifa are not made for gamers, for "geeks", they're games that appeal to the "jocks", and that's OK. There's nothing wrong with them having games too. My point is that they're no more gamers now than they where in the late 80's, and there's plenty of reason for antagony here.

Nintendo still perpetuate games for gamers, and them doing so pushes others to do the same, if only to compete with Nintendo because that's how capitalism works. That said, if Nintendo didn't make those games, would the other companies bother? Would they have the connection to the medium that Nintendo had to create these games intependently. I'd bet not. This is why we need Nintendo; for the same reason that we need the Sundance Film Festival, because just as film buffs honestly don't give a shit about mainstream films, gamers don't give a shit about "mainstream" games and that's what Sony and Microsoft are pushing.

All Stars Battle Royale outsold Pikmin 3, despite being a pile of garbage.

To copy your FF7 route, GTA:VC and GTA:SA both looked and ran better on PC.

To then take your route and smack you in the face with it, every damn game from Wii era and earlier runs on PC and looks better in the process regardless of genre so clearly according to you, because it looks and runs better on a PC via emulation, Sony and Nintendo and by and large a waste of time and we should instead simply be using emulators instead of consoles.

now compare sales performance for first party games that were new IP's on comparative systems, keeping in mind that no comparative games were available prior to the PlayStation 1, and of course ignoring heavilly bundled titles such as Wii sports.

Comparatively software based from:

PS1 - N64
PS2 - Gamecube
PS3 - Wii

It's all very well throwing out numbers such as lifetime sales of entire franchises when they span 11 major device models in the past 30 years compared to just 5 in the past 19, but that doesnt exactly paint a picture a sane person would call accurate.

To then take your route and smack you in the face with it, every damn game from Wii era and earlier runs on PC and looks better in the process regardless of genre so clearly according to you, because it looks and runs better on a PC via emulation, Sony and Nintendo and by and large a waste of time and we should instead simply be using emulators instead of consoles.