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Sony must go...

4th Party is not enough, 6th is better 20 50.00%
 
Out of the console race 2 5.00%
 
Nintendo is doing good, I think 9 22.50%
 
MS obliterates everything 7 17.50%
 
Total:38
Chrizum on 08 January 2014
sales2099 said:
I look at MS and I am proud :)

I then look at Nintendo and Sony and my first thought in comparison was : "eww"

No offense but damn is that gap large.

You can't be serious... can you?



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DamnTastic on 08 January 2014
Pavolink said:

Sony is in serious trouble. Despite selling 4.2M PS4 since launch, a big bump in PS+ suscriptions and a good PS3 holiday, the company has inferior numbers than Nintendo, the one with the missing forecasts and red numbers every quarter.

I didn't know sony already announced their Q4 financials....



Figgycal on 08 January 2014
padib said:
Figgycal said:

Playstation isn't why Sony is sinking. It's all the other shit Sony owns that makes it worth less than Nintendo. Also Nintendo's stocks jumped overnight because of China's lifts on the console ban. Once investors see what the limitations of the ban (if there are going to be any) is and how the Wii U is faring - they will drop it. Nintendo's stock raise is purely by chance and has nothing to do with the sucess of Nintendo's products.

Also, unline Nintendo - Sony makes great hardware. So no I'd rather play games on a Sony console.

The PS4 doesn't have a screen gamepad and didn't usher in motion controls, I personally prefer Nintendo hardware.

Anyway, what's your source for Sony hurting due to revenue streams other than PS?

@OP. SONY should go beyond two souls.

You can look at their financial statements; we post them on vgchartz. 

As far as the movie side of things go. You can look for yourself to see which Sony movies are hits and bombs. Sony has released a lot of underperformers recently.

EDIT: Actually I just looked it up and Colombia pictures and Sony pictures and they've done really well in the past year.



Arius Dion on 08 January 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Arius Dion said:

Their games division was not a shining light either. Blaming tvs or other poorly performing branches of sony while forgetting or marginalizing the financial disaster that was the ps3 is delusional. 

 

If you're not making money or losing billions you have to question why bother in this endeavor. The op may be joking, but in all honesty Sony probably would be the most likely candidate to go third party. They are already heavily dependent on third party support. If that support wasn't there Sony could not sustain itself in this business. 


Sony is profitting off of every Blu Ray player and they have been profitting off of the PS3 for some years now. I think you are talking about the Vita.


Bluray royalties are very minimal. And certainly didn't help their financial disaster in any meaningful way. Vitas atrocious market performance doesn't help much either. But no, I was talking about the ps3. The system was a financial disaster. You disagree?

Also, if the system lossed 6b dollars and netted a profit of half a million it's still 5.5b in the red. That's not good. 



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Cannoly on 08 January 2014

SONY what are you doing? Stop wasting money, staahhp!!



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sales2099 on 08 January 2014
Zekkyou said:
sales2099 said:
I look at MS and I am proud :)

I then look at Nintendo and Sony and my first thought in comparison was : "eww"

No offense but damn is that gap large.

You're proud of a corporation?

 

We are all cheerleaders of our favourite console and company by extention. If we were "normal" people we wouldnt be talking about our feelings on a video game forum ;)

I like that the corporation I am by extention, favouring, can buy and sell Nintendo and Sony if they so wished. At least I am honest and not pretending to be self righteous.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

S.T.A.G.E. on 08 January 2014
padib said:
Figgycal said:

Playstation isn't why Sony is sinking. It's all the other shit Sony owns that makes it worth less than Nintendo. Also Nintendo's stocks jumped overnight because of China's lifts on the console ban. Once investors see what the limitations of the ban (if there are going to be any) is and how the Wii U is faring - they will drop it. Nintendo's stock raise is purely by chance and has nothing to do with the sucess of Nintendo's products.

Also, unline Nintendo - Sony makes great hardware. So no I'd rather play games on a Sony console.

The PS4 doesn't have a screen gamepad and didn't usher in motion controls, I personally prefer Nintendo hardware.

Anyway, what's your source for Sony hurting due to revenue streams other than PS?

@OP. SONY should go beyond two souls.


It isn't the Playstation brand that hurting Sony, it is mostly Sonys electronics outside of Playstaton that is taking a hit. They have too wide of a product base, their products are too expensive (even if they are at the forefront of development). Vizio is one of the highest selling brands in America, but its also the cheapest. Remember that.



S.T.A.G.E. on 08 January 2014
Arius Dion said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Arius Dion said:

Their games division was not a shining light either. Blaming tvs or other poorly performing branches of sony while forgetting or marginalizing the financial disaster that was the ps3 is delusional. 

 

If you're not making money or losing billions you have to question why bother in this endeavor. The op may be joking, but in all honesty Sony probably would be the most likely candidate to go third party. They are already heavily dependent on third party support. If that support wasn't there Sony could not sustain itself in this business. 


Sony is profitting off of every Blu Ray player and they have been profitting off of the PS3 for some years now. I think you are talking about the Vita.


Bluray royalties are very minimal. And certainly didn't help their financial disaster in any meaningful way. Vitas atrocious market performance doesn't help much either. But no, I was talking about the ps3. The system was a financial disaster. You disagree?

Also, if the system lossed 6b dollars and netted a profit of half a million it's still 5.5b in the red. That's not good. 


Their royalties aren't minimal in the long run, just to eyes that expect maximum profits to come front loaded. Kaz Hirai is touted as the man who saved the Playstation from a disasterous breakdown, which is why he is the head of Sony now. The Playstation brand is fine, the Vita just needs to be dropped.



Pavolink on 08 January 2014
padib said:
Figgycal said:

Playstation isn't why Sony is sinking. It's all the other shit Sony owns that makes it worth less than Nintendo. Also Nintendo's stocks jumped overnight because of China's lifts on the console ban. Once investors see what the limitations of the ban (if there are going to be any) is and how the Wii U is faring - they will drop it. Nintendo's stock raise is purely by chance and has nothing to do with the sucess of Nintendo's products.

Also, unline Nintendo - Sony makes great hardware. So no I'd rather play games on a Sony console.

The PS4 doesn't have a screen gamepad and didn't usher in motion controls, I personally prefer Nintendo hardware.

Anyway, what's your source for Sony hurting due to revenue streams other than PS?

@OP. SONY should go beyond two souls.

Beyond death? That will win their fan's heart.



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Zekkyou on 08 January 2014
sales2099 said:
Zekkyou said:
sales2099 said:
I look at MS and I am proud :)

I then look at Nintendo and Sony and my first thought in comparison was : "eww"

No offense but damn is that gap large.

You're proud of a corporation?

 

We are all cheerleaders of our favourite console and company by extention. If we were "normal" people we wouldnt be talking about our feelings on a video game forum ;)

I like that the corporation I am by extention, favouring, can buy and sell Nintendo and Sony if they so wished. At least I am honest and not pretending to be self righteous.

Sure everyone haves favorites, but i can't even fathom the idea of being "proud" of something that exists purely to make money off me :/ Even by extension it's still bizarre.. 

I tend to favor the PS brand, more because i'm a PC gamer than anything (there are quite a few xbox-PC games, but not many PS-PC games), but I couldn't care less about Sony as long as they maintain the PS brands quality. They could be worth $1 trillion and i'd be about as proud as of my bedroom door.