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chocoloco said:
DD_Bwest said:
chocoloco said:
DD_Bwest said:
chocoloco said:
I have certainly enjoyed my legal Ganja. I can certainly say Colorado is just rolling on the way it always has been. Just making even more money on stoned tourists. We were already the 4th largest tourist state behind Florida. California and Hawia. Now we will do even better and have a greater economy because of it.


How does the weed compare to "street"  or "dealer" weed lol   

It is just pure sensimellia meaning very little stems and no riodpe. I have not smoked mexican, trash, dirt weed in at least 14 years.

It is top quality. We even had the Cannabis cup in Denver this year. Colorado buds competed with Netherlands buds and did really well. There are already Medical marijuana competitions too. It is some of the best quality in the world. Never had such premo quality when I was a teen. It was Mexican trash then.

 

Times changed for the good fast!!!

always good to hear!   Some people try to bring up potency in a bad way, but it really just means you need less and end up smoking less "plant matter" lol  Lots of lessons will be learned in colorado.  once you've have real good weed you never wanna go back.  Ive smoked mexican trash once, an it gave me a headache lol  hell i wont smoke outdoor bud.

Does your shop test strains for potency?   My place i can get a % for the thc and cbd's.


Agreed, on your first point.

Yes, many shops show the percentage of THC and CBDs. As bud smokers here became more knowledgable about it they now understand more of what percentage they prefer.  I usually go with indicas that have more CBDs, CBCs. and a little less THC. Sativas with too much THC can make me have a sort of bad trip. So when my friends who all prefer Sativa want to smoke I do not.I drink instead.  I will only smoke when it has half Indica breeding, or more.

thats good,  Personally i prefer a hybrid thats a bit heavier on the sativa.  although lately ive been getting heavier indica's and "spicing it up" with pinpoints of Budder.  Not sure if they have it down there.  Its not cannabutter(as alot of people think because of the name), but a high potency extract.  way stronger then oil and easier on the throat..  its pretty solid at room temp, but when heated its full melt, even more so then oil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budder



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I don't really think it needs to be legal, it's already treated as a legal substance for the most part. I can smoke a joint in front of a police station and not get stopped or questioned. Its so common and accepted as it is, there is really no point to go through the legal troubles of legalization.

The only real positive thing I can see legalization doing is allowing companies to grow and sell in convenience or specialty stores, and thus hopefully driving down price and increasing quality due to competition.



oldschoolfool said:

I know there's a marijuana thread,but I wanted to debate this specific topic. If the mods close this thread,then I'll understand. So,why should marijuana be legal. There's no real benifit 2 it at all. All it does is make you a lazy unproductive member of society. What good does that do to be high all the time and do nothing in life,but live for that high. Anybody that wants to use it for medical purposes is just using that as an excuse to get high. according to my reading,the drug produces anxiety,fear,distrust and panic. It also affects your posture,coordination and reaction time. It can also cause dellusions and hallucinations. it can also increase heart rate and cause sleep impairment. How does all that give you these magical medical benefits. I just don't understand what's so great about this so-called magical drug. For the record,I don't understand the point of booze and tobacco,but those things are legal. Why make just another bad thing for you,legal. It benifits no one. If I had my way,booze and tobacco would be outlawed. There's no benefit in any of these things. 

Why should it be legalized? Because it's more dangerous as an illegal substance than it would be as a legal one. Alcohol is a perfect example. Not only did making alcohol illegal in the US during the 1920's cause alcohol sales and consumption to go up, it also created criminal empires who benefited from the demand of illegal alcohol. Making alcohol illegal in order to keep the public safe actually caused the murder rate and overall crime rate in the US to increase. The same thing is happening today in places like Mexico. Why is Mexico having the issues they're having with violence caused by the drug cartels? It's because the government there is trying to rid the country of drugs, which causes demand to go up, which creates these drug gangs, which creates competition amonsgt the drug gangs, which leads to murder and violence everywhere.

You also ask about benefits? Consider that since the Nixon Administration declared America's War on Drugs in the 1970's and the Reagan Administration excellerated that war in the 1980's, the United States has spend nearly 1 trillion dollars over the last 40 years on a drug war with no substantial progress being made. Also consider the tax revenue substances like marijuana would bring in. By legalizing it, you would cut govenment spending, increase revenue, which could be used to bring down America's deficit, which would increase the value of the American dollar (we currently borrow 40 cents from every dollar), which could help out with the eceonomy on an international level. Oh, and if weed and perhaps other drugs were legalized, people would probably use that stuff even less since there wouldn't be a concern for demand.

On my final note of this argument, why should the government have a right to tell you what you can and cannot put into your own body? With that logic, why not outlaw soda and junk food? Why not outlaw McDonalds for making people fat?

 



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DD_Bwest said:
chocoloco said:
DD_Bwest said:
chocoloco said:

It is just pure sensimellia meaning very little stems and no riodpe. I have not smoked mexican, trash, dirt weed in at least 14 years.

It is top quality. We even had the Cannabis cup in Denver this year. Colorado buds competed with Netherlands buds and did really well. There are already Medical marijuana competitions too. It is some of the best quality in the world. Never had such premo quality when I was a teen. It was Mexican trash then.

 

Times changed for the good fast!!!

always good to hear!   Some people try to bring up potency in a bad way, but it really just means you need less and end up smoking less "plant matter" lol  Lots of lessons will be learned in colorado.  once you've have real good weed you never wanna go back.  Ive smoked mexican trash once, an it gave me a headache lol  hell i wont smoke outdoor bud.

Does your shop test strains for potency?   My place i can get a % for the thc and cbd's.


Agreed, on your first point.

Yes, many shops show the percentage of THC and CBDs. As bud smokers here became more knowledgable about it they now understand more of what percentage they prefer.  I usually go with indicas that have more CBDs, CBCs. and a little less THC. Sativas with too much THC can make me have a sort of bad trip. So when my friends who all prefer Sativa want to smoke I do not.I drink instead.  I will only smoke when it has half Indica breeding, or more.

thats good,  Personally i prefer a hybrid thats a bit heavier on the sativa.  although lately ive been getting heavier indica's and "spicing it up" with pinpoints of Budder.  Not sure if they have it down there.  Its not cannabutter(as alot of people think because of the name), but a high potency extract.  way stronger then oil and easier on the throat..  its pretty solid at room temp, but when heated its full melt, even more so then oil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budder

I know this stuff exists here. Never tried it myself. A lot of experienced growers moved here after the Medical industry blew up here. So most products you have are pronbably here somewhere in Colorado. My tolerence is fairly low as I am an off and on again type of toker bro. So many of the things like hash and this budder would be too much for me. But, hell I have smoked bud 9 out of ten days lately and my tolerance is way up. I actually might quit for some time to get it low again. A low tolerence is so muc h fun because you get fuuuuuuckked up real easily!



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chocoloco said:
DD_Bwest said:
chocoloco said:
DD_Bwest said:
chocoloco said:
 

It is just pure sensimellia meaning very little stems and no riodpe. I have not smoked mexican, trash, dirt weed in at least 14 years.

It is top quality. We even had the Cannabis cup in Denver this year. Colorado buds competed with Netherlands buds and did really well. There are already Medical marijuana competitions too. It is some of the best quality in the world. Never had such premo quality when I was a teen. It was Mexican trash then.

 

Times changed for the good fast!!!

always good to hear!   Some people try to bring up potency in a bad way, but it really just means you need less and end up smoking less "plant matter" lol  Lots of lessons will be learned in colorado.  once you've have real good weed you never wanna go back.  Ive smoked mexican trash once, an it gave me a headache lol  hell i wont smoke outdoor bud.

Does your shop test strains for potency?   My place i can get a % for the thc and cbd's.


Agreed, on your first point.

Yes, many shops show the percentage of THC and CBDs. As bud smokers here became more knowledgable about it they now understand more of what percentage they prefer.  I usually go with indicas that have more CBDs, CBCs. and a little less THC. Sativas with too much THC can make me have a sort of bad trip. So when my friends who all prefer Sativa want to smoke I do not.I drink instead.  I will only smoke when it has half Indica breeding, or more.

thats good,  Personally i prefer a hybrid thats a bit heavier on the sativa.  although lately ive been getting heavier indica's and "spicing it up" with pinpoints of Budder.  Not sure if they have it down there.  Its not cannabutter(as alot of people think because of the name), but a high potency extract.  way stronger then oil and easier on the throat..  its pretty solid at room temp, but when heated its full melt, even more so then oil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budder

I know this stuff exists here. Never tried it myself. A lot of experienced growers moved here after the Medical industry blew up here. So most products you have are pronbably here somewhere in Colorado. My tolerence is fairly low as I am an off and on again type of toker bro. So many of the things like hash and this budder would be too much for me. But, hell I have smoked bud 9 out of ten days lately and my tolerance is way up. I actually might quit for some time to get it low again. A low tolerence is so muc h fun because you get fuuuuuuckked up real easily!


yea i wish my tolerance was low like it used to be.   side effects from 2+ grams a day to myself for over ten years lol  everyone i know who ends up trying budder loves it because you can get really high off 1-2 good hotknives.    and its a very clean feeling high because of the lack of anything else in it



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I think the idea that the government exists to protect us from our own stupidity is much more harmful to society than any drug or side affect to a drug.


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DD_Bwest said:
chocoloco said:
DD_Bwest said:
chocoloco said:
DD_Bwest said:
 

always good to hear!   Some people try to bring up potency in a bad way, but it really just means you need less and end up smoking less "plant matter" lol  Lots of lessons will be learned in colorado.  once you've have real good weed you never wanna go back.  Ive smoked mexican trash once, an it gave me a headache lol  hell i wont smoke outdoor bud.

Does your shop test strains for potency?   My place i can get a % for the thc and cbd's.


Agreed, on your first point.

Yes, many shops show the percentage of THC and CBDs. As bud smokers here became more knowledgable about it they now understand more of what percentage they prefer.  I usually go with indicas that have more CBDs, CBCs. and a little less THC. Sativas with too much THC can make me have a sort of bad trip. So when my friends who all prefer Sativa want to smoke I do not.I drink instead.  I will only smoke when it has half Indica breeding, or more.

thats good,  Personally i prefer a hybrid thats a bit heavier on the sativa.  although lately ive been getting heavier indica's and "spicing it up" with pinpoints of Budder.  Not sure if they have it down there.  Its not cannabutter(as alot of people think because of the name), but a high potency extract.  way stronger then oil and easier on the throat..  its pretty solid at room temp, but when heated its full melt, even more so then oil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budder

I know this stuff exists here. Never tried it myself. A lot of experienced growers moved here after the Medical industry blew up here. So most products you have are pronbably here somewhere in Colorado. My tolerence is fairly low as I am an off and on again type of toker bro. So many of the things like hash and this budder would be too much for me. But, hell I have smoked bud 9 out of ten days lately and my tolerance is way up. I actually might quit for some time to get it low again. A low tolerence is so muc h fun because you get fuuuuuuckked up real easily!


yea i wish my tolerance was low like it used to be.   side effects from 2+ grams a day to myself for over ten years lol  everyone i know who ends up trying budder loves it because you can get really high off 1-2 good hotknives.    and its a very clean feeling high because of the lack of anything else in it

Hahaha.... sounds like BC has it really good there. Can Provinces in Canada choose to legalize MJ like the States can? Or will MJ only become legal if your federal government chooses to legalize it? In other words, do Provinces have power to make laws differing from federal laws? In this case, making Mary Jane totally legal?



chocoloco said:
DD_Bwest said:
chocoloco said:

I know this stuff exists here. Never tried it myself. A lot of experienced growers moved here after the Medical industry blew up here. So most products you have are pronbably here somewhere in Colorado. My tolerence is fairly low as I am an off and on again type of toker bro. So many of the things like hash and this budder would be too much for me. But, hell I have smoked bud 9 out of ten days lately and my tolerance is way up. I actually might quit for some time to get it low again. A low tolerence is so muc h fun because you get fuuuuuuckked up real easily!


yea i wish my tolerance was low like it used to be.   side effects from 2+ grams a day to myself for over ten years lol  everyone i know who ends up trying budder loves it because you can get really high off 1-2 good hotknives.    and its a very clean feeling high because of the lack of anything else in it

Hahaha.... sounds like BC has it really good there. Can Provinces in Canada choose to legalize MJ like the States can? Or will MJ only become legal if your federal government chooses to legalize it? In other words, do Provinces have power to make laws differing from federal laws? In this case, making Mary Jane totally legal?

Very good question, and while im not sure the exact specifics, i think its a half way sort of answer.   while the feds would have laws, i believe the provinces do have the ability to opt out of them with a regionalized veto power.  but i couldnt explain it in detail and im not sure how often its used and how it would have to be implemented. I think quebec uses it though for language stuff



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"Hes the clown that makes the dark side fun.. Torgo!"

Ha.. i won my bet, but i wasnt around to gloat because im on a better forum!  See ya guys on Viz