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Hynad said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
Err.... No they were inspired by Aliens. Yamauchi doesnt like disney.


Yamauchi disliked most things that weren't him.

Did Nintendo do something to you recently hynad?



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Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
Hynad said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
Err.... No they were inspired by Aliens. Yamauchi doesnt like disney.


Yamauchi disliked most things that weren't him.

Did Nintendo do something to you recently hynad?

Yes. They provided me with an insane amount of awesome gaming hours with the stellar Super Mario 3D World.

What about it?



Zekkyou said:
Dv8thwonder said:
Zekkyou said:

They definitely need to start targeting a larger audience. Right now they seem to make nothing other than family friendly games. Of course being family friendly has nothing to do with the quality of an individual game, but locking yourself into it does greatly reduce the diversity of the games you can make.

A lot of Sony's success came from their ability to produce games for both the family and the "mature" gamers (e.g. LBP and The Last of Us).


You make a point to say Nintendo should broaden their horizons yet you ignore the fact that a "family" approach is that wider audience. Sony's success or lackthereof (depends on who you ask) in the console market has come from the niche audience. I mean seriously if there were more of them wouldn't their numbers have dwarfed the so called "casuals" last generation?

Little Big Planet and The Last of Us?

One isn't a family title by any stretch of the imagination and secondly, I'm not sure you know what the word mature means.

You seem to have completely miss understood my comment ^^;

"Of course being family friendly has nothing to do with the quality of an individual game, but locking yourself into it does greatly reduce the diversity of the games you can make."

I've bolded the first part you seem to have missed. I am talking about the diversity of their line up, not specific age groups. Of course family friendly games have a larger general appeal, but if that's all you make then you lose a lot of the variety many gamers want. Sometimes I want to play Mario, or Pokemon, other days I want my mind blown away by storytelling. Other days I just want to blow shit up :p Nintendo's 1st party line up is heavily lacking in that diversity. That pretty much locks them out from any gamers who prefer a more general gaming experience (which is an awful lot of people, look at the 160 million sales of the HD twins).

Aaaah, yeah it must be that “niche” appeal that led to Sony selling twice as many home console units over the last three generations than Nintendo ^^ The “niche” audience also seems to be considerably more sustainable, seeing as the PS3 has been outselling the Wii for years. That Niche market is also spread across 160 million gamers on the PS3 and 360 :p and are currently the ones kicking the WiiU’s ass.

Other than the PS3’s financials, I’d say Sony have been the very definition of successful.

My example of LBP and TLOU was showing Sony make high quality games for both the family and the “mature” audiences. And I know exactly what mature means :P You will notice I use quotation marks around my every use of mature, family and casual. I did so to imply I was using the word loosely, rather than actually segregating the audiences.


Family being a wider ranged audience is all inclusive. There is no segregation of audiences here. The broken marketing terms casual and hardrcore which have been widely adopted by people who play games and media alike is where the segregation lies and where the seclusion begins...

How is Nintendo's 1st party software lacking in diversity compared to what exactly?

I hope you are only using Sony's games as a metric and not combining that with 3rd party software, which happens to be the primary reason to purchase of a "Nontendo" platform. I am 100% sure if roles were reversed in the 5th, 6th, 7th and now 8th gen you would not be so confident in Sony's ability to sell a console. I will go a bit further and say had not the cost of entry been so high to be a "PC gamer" the need for a Sony or Microsoft console would be even more redundant than it is now.

 HD twins is not a combined platform nor will it ever be. Stop trying to make this a thing. It's not gonna happen!

79% chance of bankruptcy

"Mature" games or gamers for that matter. I feel silly just typing that.



Things that need to die in 2016: Defeatist attitudes of Nintendo fans

1. Battletoads did not stay unique to Nintendo systems, it was on arcades and Genesis as well.

2. While Rare's games certainly helped, let's not pretend that it's been anything OTHER than Mario and Zelda most responsible for selling Nintendo consoles over the generations, since the NES.

3. The idea of Nintendo corralling some more development studios under their umbrella isn't a BAD idea, in fact I've championed them buying studios ranging from Vanillaware to Atlus to Sega to Platinum over the years. Hell, I thought they should've bought Factor 5 back in the day, kept them from going under. But throwing more games at a system isn't the ONLY answer. The games have to actually be good, and they have to actually sell, people have to actually go out and BUY them.

So it's not a bad idea for Nintendo to scoop up some more exclusive content for their systems. But that's not the only answer.



Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
Hynad said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
Err.... No they were inspired by Aliens. Yamauchi doesnt like disney.


Yamauchi disliked most things that weren't him.

Did Nintendo do something to you recently hynad?

Yamauchi was a truly awful person to do business with by all acounts. No need to be so defensive.



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Dv8thwonder said:

Family being a wider ranged audience is all inclusive. There is no segregation of audiences here. The broken marketing terms casual and hardrcore which have been widely adopted by people who play games and media alike is where the segregation lies and where the seclusion begins...

How is Nintendo's 1st party software lacking in diversity compared to what exactly?

I hope you are only using Sony's games as a metric and not combining that with 3rd party software, which happens to be the primary reason to purchase of a "Nontendo" platform. I am 100% sure if roles were reversed in the 5th, 6th, 7th and now 8th gen you would not be so confident in Sony's ability to sell a console. I will go a bit further and say had not the cost of entry been so high to be a "PC gamer" the need for a Sony or Microsoft console would be even more redundant than it is now.

 HD twins is not a combined platform nor will it ever be. Stop trying to make this a thing. It's not gonna happen!

79% chance of bankruptcy

"Mature" games or gamers for that matter. I feel silly just typing that.

I was going to write a long comment about how you still don't seem to understand my point and list to you the difference in Nintendo’s diversity compared to others, but I don't have the energy or time. All I will sale is Nintendo lost the 5th gen home console fight by a large margin. They were completely crushed in the 6th gen. They won by a modest amount in the 7th, but weren’t able to sustain the success past a few years. We are now in the 8th gen and so far they are back to their pre 7th gen number

Since the 5th gen Sony have sold almost 350 million consoles. Nintendo have sold just over 150 million in that time, with 2/3rds of that being from a single gen they couldn’t sustain).

Nintendo will always be the king of handhelds, but it’s obvious there home console strategy isn’t all that good compared to Sony’s. People can throw around “yeah but” and “what if” all they like, it happened. It’s still happening.

So with all that in mind, please do tell me of Nintendo’s glorious strategy  :P

On a side note, you do know the site that claims that statistic also claimed Nintendo to have a 22% chance of going bankrupt in the next 2 years? :P I'll let you muse over the absurdity of that before you decide on the credibility of their info.

PS: M stands for Mature. Nuff said.



I've said before, Nintendo should stop sitting on its cash and buy two publishers. They should by Capcom and Square Enix. Monster Hunter, RE, FF and DQ have dedicated fans who will buy systems for their games. Those same fans will also buy the third party titles that are struggling on Wii U. With other titles like Tomb Raider, Street Fighter, etc, Nintendo's consoles would have a very full lineup without any third party support.

Nintendo should spend about 3 Billion US$ to take a controlling stake in those companies. Let them run independently, with their own more mature branding, but streamline them and make them exclusive to Wii U and 3DS.



Purple said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
Hynad said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
Err.... No they were inspired by Aliens. Yamauchi doesnt like disney.


Yamauchi disliked most things that weren't him.

Did Nintendo do something to you recently hynad?

Yamauchi was a truly awful person to do business with by all acounts. No need to be so defensive.

Not everyone felt that way.



Zekkyou said:
Dv8thwonder said:
Zekkyou said:

They definitely need to start targeting a larger audience. Right now they seem to make nothing other than family friendly games. Of course being family friendly has nothing to do with the quality of an individual game, but locking yourself into it does greatly reduce the diversity of the games you can make.

A lot of Sony's success came from their ability to produce games for both the family and the "mature" gamers (e.g. LBP and The Last of Us).


You make a point to say Nintendo should broaden their horizons yet you ignore the fact that a "family" approach is that wider audience. Sony's success or lackthereof (depends on who you ask) in the console market has come from the niche audience. I mean seriously if there were more of them wouldn't their numbers have dwarfed the so called "casuals" last generation?

Little Big Planet and The Last of Us?

One isn't a family title by any stretch of the imagination and secondly, I'm not sure you know what the word mature means.

You seem to have completely miss understood my comment ^^;

"Of course being family friendly has nothing to do with the quality of an individual game, but locking yourself into it does greatly reduce the diversity of the games you can make."

I've bolded the first part you seem to have missed. I am talking about the diversity of their line up, not specific age groups. Of course family friendly games have a larger general appeal, but if that's all you make then you lose a lot of the variety many gamers want. Sometimes I want to play Mario, or Pokemon, other days I want my mind blown away by storytelling. Other days I just want to blow shit up :p Nintendo's 1st party line up is heavily lacking in that diversity. That pretty much locks them out from any gamers who prefer a more general gaming experience (which is an awful lot of people, look at the 160 million sales of the HD twins).

Aaaah, yeah it must be that “niche” appeal that led to Sony selling twice as many home console units over the last three generations than Nintendo ^^ The “niche” audience also seems to be considerably more sustainable, seeing as the PS3 has been outselling the Wii for years. That Niche market is also spread across 160 million gamers on the PS3 and 360 :p and are currently the ones kicking the WiiU’s ass.

Other than the PS3’s financials, I’d say Sony have been the very definition of successful.

My example of LBP and TLOU was showing Sony make high quality games for both the family and the “mature” audiences. And I know exactly what mature means :P You will notice I use quotation marks around my every use of mature, family and casual. I did so to imply I was using the word loosely, rather than actually segregating the audiences.


Nintendo makes a lot of different kinds of games.

Its just those "family friendly" ones are their biggest and most well known franchises



Zekkyou said:
Dv8thwonder said:

Family being a wider ranged audience is all inclusive. There is no segregation of audiences here. The broken marketing terms casual and hardrcore which have been widely adopted by people who play games and media alike is where the segregation lies and where the seclusion begins...

How is Nintendo's 1st party software lacking in diversity compared to what exactly?

I hope you are only using Sony's games as a metric and not combining that with 3rd party software, which happens to be the primary reason to purchase of a "Nontendo" platform. I am 100% sure if roles were reversed in the 5th, 6th, 7th and now 8th gen you would not be so confident in Sony's ability to sell a console. I will go a bit further and say had not the cost of entry been so high to be a "PC gamer" the need for a Sony or Microsoft console would be even more redundant than it is now.

 HD twins is not a combined platform nor will it ever be. Stop trying to make this a thing. It's not gonna happen!

79% chance of bankruptcy

"Mature" games or gamers for that matter. I feel silly just typing that.

I was going to write a long comment about how you still don't seem to understand my point and list to you the difference in Nintendo’s diversity compared to others, but I don't have the energy or time. All I will sale is Nintendo lost the 5th gen home console fight by a large margin. They were completely crushed in the 6th gen. They won by a modest amount in the 7th, but weren’t able to sustain the success past a few years. We are now in the 8th gen and so far they are back to their pre 7th gen number

Since the 5th gen Sony have sold almost 350 million consoles. Nintendo have sold just over 150 million in that time, with 2/3rds of that being from a single gen they couldn’t sustain).

Nintendo will always be the king of handhelds, but it’s obvious there home console strategy isn’t all that good compared to Sony’s. People can throw around “yeah but” and “what if” all they like, it happened. It’s still happening.

So with all that in mind, please do tell me of Nintendo’s glorious strategy  :P

On a side note, you do know the site that claims that statistic also claimed Nintendo to have a 22% chance of going bankrupt in the next 2 years? :P I'll let you muse over the absurdity of that before you decide on the credibility of their info.

PS: M stands for Mature. Nuff said.

Nintendo's success during the 7th gen was anything but modest. So much in fact that earlier in the gen Sony and Microsoft mocked its success only to mimick it later on.

350 Million consoles sold on the advent of new disc formats. That is no longer the case. 

Nintendo's strategy is handheld first then home console.

Re: Nintendo's 22% chance of Bankruptcy, Yes I do and it's not so farfatched if you understand how they came to that conclusion.

The majority of people who play M rated titles can barely vote.

Nuff said.



Things that need to die in 2016: Defeatist attitudes of Nintendo fans